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  1. #111
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    Aluja89's Avatar
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    Aluja Bright
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    Being useless isn't a disability.
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  2. #112
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    Endariel's Avatar
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    Riviera Koji
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    Coeurl
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    Dragoon Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    But are you part of the people with disabilities to speak on their behalf?
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    Last edited by Endariel; 07-27-2021 at 11:57 PM.

  3. #113
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    raelgun's Avatar
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    No thanks, your minimum threshold for people getting their items from content sounds like nonsense and totally disregards those with disabilities. You've thought clearly of nothing but your own benefit with this suggestion and it shows.

    Further rewarding the top 1% is not healthy for the game either. We have enough exclusive things without giving every single piece of combat based content yet more 1% focused rewards. If someone is straight up afk refusing a rez, report that player and carry on your day. But I for one am not about to punish those players who do try their best but cannot keep up with content due to physical disability etc
    Few things here.

    why do people use people with disabilities as a weapon here, don't, you are worse then people insulting people with disabilities, don't use them for your agenda.

    The game has so few rewards for the 1%, most of the game is accessible to most players, you are making it sound like theres load of inaccessible rewards which isn't true.

    The game actually needs more rewards for the 10% and above, the midcore and above, give more players an incentive to keep at it with midcore content, for this they can't freeride as easy or at all.
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  4. #114
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Thinking most disabled players are struggling to even play the game feels pretty insulting and patronizing. Even if the intention wasn't harmful, don't use us for your agenda please.
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    Last edited by VentVanitas; 07-28-2021 at 12:10 AM.

  5. #115
    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    So now you want to call someone a troll because you don't agree with them? Please don't engage with me. Because you are being childish, and I can't really stand people like you who can't disagree with someone without calling them a troll or something else. After going back and reading some of your posts. You are kinda doing me a favor to be honest.

    Pro tip for one disable person to another. It is hard to take you serious or the stance you have when you deflect so easily.
    yeah yeah, don't feed the troll and all that, but the sheer irony of him of all people saying these sentences is hilarious
    because if you're not doing it on purpose, which is what I know think you're doing now after having read that:
    you have one extremely warped view of yourself and how you conduct yourself
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  6. #116
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    yeah yeah, don't feed the troll and all that, but the sheer irony of him of all people saying these sentences is hilarious
    because if you're not doing it on purpose, which is what I know think you're doing now after having read that:
    you have one extremely warped view of yourself and how you conduct yourself

    I have not broke any rules of the forums, and I debate my stance and say I don't agree. It is not my fault some of you are overly sensitive to anyone who does not agree with you. I know this forums is famous for being an echo chamber of the worse parts of the community. Just some of you need to relax.


    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    Thinking most disabled players are struggling to even play the game feels pretty insulting and patronizing. Even if the intention wasn't harmful, don't use us for your agenda please.

    This comment right here. Like the person had good intent. Many disable people who do have problems with some of the fights play this game. Some disable people (like myself) can manage (but I can't do many raids back to back.) The point is, this game has these types. To turn it around on that person, when the heart was in the right place. Just proves a point.


    Yoshi-p says you will carry people and like it. If you vote kick them. You can get reported for it. So if that bothers some of you. Don't use duty finder.
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    Last edited by Wavaryen; 07-28-2021 at 12:24 AM.

  7. #117
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    Ayuhra's Avatar
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alaeacus View Post
    I've so far done over 50 CLL runs. Literally every run I get at least one Martialist potion that replaces the one I used. I don't particularly like the system, but decent essences are easy as hell to get. It may be difficult to get your "preferred" or "ideal" essence, but using any essence is better than using no essence. Plenty of people use no essence at all.
    I will always use essences. Always. They just might be ones that help healers run profane instead of any that make me impressive.

    Martialist cannot be used by dancers. I have a handful of those.

    I don't HATE Bozja but the essence grind is a system they need to take another look at before they run it again. It has merit but it needs to be streamlined and way more clear how/when to use them and where to get them at the very least. A buff that lets you target a certain essence would be nice too. For example if I want a shot at Essence of the Skirmisher I have to abandon my relic grind in Zadnor because that essence does not drop in Zadnor. It could be a buff from turning in field notes you already have idk. Some work for it would be fine since for new players older ones in Old Bozja is somewhat important.

    (Note: I am mostly talking about essences you use outside DR, after a point in DR you use Pures)
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    Last edited by Ayuhra; 07-28-2021 at 12:20 AM.

  8. #118
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    Wolfsbane706's Avatar
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    Kaplan Zereort
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    Marilith
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    Summoner Lv 82
    ITT: Players who have forgotten what it's like to be new to certain content, players who have forgotten what it's like to be new completely, players who are generally pretty fine with the status quo, and the occasional troll.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    Yeah but Awha, imagine you were put in a setting where someone else could do something similar to you. Would you like it? I won't preach about karma, the universe, and stuff but... You are just wrecking yourself if you kick just about anyone based entirely on mood swings. Getting banned in a game is not the worst thing that can happen to someone.
    I am being honest with myself I would be fine with it. I perosnally do not view being removed as they end of the world why would I want to play with a group of a people that had no interest in plaything with me?

    Though once again it is not mood swings I just have certain standards that most would find unreasonable or unfair.

    In the end I have been removed from parties I just queue again people take being removed far too personally when often times the action is not done out if malice just turns has the voting majority is either neutral or has no desire to play with person B. So if I am removed I just chalk it up to well guess said group does not want to play along with me.

    Though I will bite though how exactly am I wrecking myself? What reason do I have to put others ahead of my own or those around me enjoyment?
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  10. #120
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    Thinking most disabled players are struggling to even play the game feels pretty insulting and patronizing. Even if the intention wasn't harmful, don't use us for your agenda please.
    I usually don't even talk about "what do disabled people want" because I don't personally know any. I can put myself in some imaginary perspective of a disabled person built from my understanding of what a disabled person does and wants but it would be faulty.
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