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    I'll add that most people don't think of how detailed their logs are.

    All they need is the time of your report, and they'll be able to see:

    - Every action you performed, down to the time in milliseconds of the action. This will include not only keybinds / button presses / clicks but also character movement. When you jumped. When you emoted.
    - Every word you said in any chat channel, whether it's on the screen or not.
    - Every player that was in the area at the time, their actions, and their chat logs.

    As they have access to this, they don't need screenshots.

    It's like you're at NASCAR. You get a really good shot of the car whizzing by, so you head to the pit to offer it up to the crew for "information". The crew already has the car monitored 126 different ways, so any information you might provide with your picture of the car going by isn't going to give them insight they don't already have.

    Now multiply this by 35,000 fans offering up photos of cars for "insight" into a race. It would get very old, very fast. Instead, there's just a notice up that says, "WE DON'T NEED PIX. THANKS!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    I'll add that most people don't think of how detailed their logs are.

    All they need is the time of your report, and they'll be able to see:

    - Every action you performed, down to the time in milliseconds of the action. This will include not only keybinds / button presses / clicks but also character movement. When you jumped. When you emoted.
    - Every word you said in any chat channel, whether it's on the screen or not.
    - Every player that was in the area at the time, their actions, and their chat logs.

    As they have access to this, they don't need screenshots.

    It's like you're at NASCAR. You get a really good shot of the car whizzing by, so you head to the pit to offer it up to the crew for "information". The crew already has the car monitored 126 different ways, so any information you might provide with your picture of the car going by isn't going to give them insight they don't already have.

    Now multiply this by 35,000 fans offering up photos of cars for "insight" into a race. It would get very old, very fast. Instead, there's just a notice up that says, "WE DON'T NEED PIX. THANKS!"
    I feel like if their logs were actually that detailed, bots would get banned much more often then they do as they'd be able to see abnormalities like a player following the exact same path/sequence of actions over a prolonged period.

    I've also reported multiple bots that were going around doing their business while AFK; which is literally impossible to do without a third party program as any manual input will immediately remove your AFK status. Despite pointing this out in my reports, none of the players in question actually got banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I feel like if their logs were actually that detailed, bots would get banned much more often then they do as they'd be able to see abnormalities like a player following the exact same path/sequence of actions over a prolonged period.

    I've also reported multiple bots that were going around doing their business while AFK; which is literally impossible to do without a third party program as any manual input will immediately remove your AFK status. Despite pointing this out in my reports, none of the players in question actually got banned.
    As it was said above, banwaves aren't done daily. Also, it's very easy to get past a temp ban/perma ban if you know what you're doing. Keep in mind, the players botting/farming gil are whales and have the funds irl to continuously make new accounts, get new computers, new internet services, VPNs, etc. This is their job in a sense so they will never truly be gone as they can just keep funneling the money they make off selling gil into getting back into the game.

    In my opinion, they'd have to put in a legit form of cheat prevention that blocks any sort of plugin/mod/etc. to get some sort of handle on it. (Like to the point you can't even tab out of the game without button mashing your keyboard 20+ times).
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