Fishing Not Respectful Of Player's Time

[Theodric]

It also takes about an hour to prepare the average meal from scratch, though conveniences are made due to the fact that it is, in fact, a game.

I've been on fishing trips in the real world. You can get lucky some days and come back with nothing on other days. It requires a lot of patience and luck.

Personally I don't think there's much wrong with lessening some of the lofty requirements for certain big fish, since it's fully possible for someone with less time to play the game to consistently miss the windows for months if not years and still not catch one even if they do manage to catch one of the rarer fishing windows.

[van_arn]

Respecting the players time refers to being able to enjoy the game without it becoming a job. That does not mean you'll get 100% completion without the game becoming a job.

Fishing is an excellent optional bottomless pit, especially when you consider how much easier it was made to level via ocean fishing.

[Neoyoshi]

What are some ideas you would implement to make fishing more enjoyable?

I've been fishing for years in this game, and i consider myself one of the more lazy of fisherfolk; and it is DEFFINITLY a time commitment.

I won't speak on behalf of time itself; as it's going to be obviously different for everyone, but I will say I have a list of things that I personally would love to see.

And it's a long list, so here's just a few things off that list.



1. Tacklebox independent from the inventory itself.
- I'm not certain why we still don't have one.

2. Revert back to old vendor gil value for Fish.
- This is probably very complicated as anything that affects the games economy in anyway can break something, but fish back in the day used to be worth more when they are sold to vendors.

3. Customizable Fishing Chairs and Props.
- Not a important feature request.

[Krotoan]

What are some ideas you would implement to make fishing more enjoyable?

I wish they'd make you able to fully emote while fishing. So when I'm sitting around with other people having fishing parties I wasn't locked into the intense fishing deathstare.

[Lunalepsy]

With the influx of players trying out the game and praising how it respects the player's time compared to WoW, where players complain it feels like a second job, there's one aspect of the ff14 that is the complete opposite...Fishing.

With Endwalker still months out and not much left to do until then I decided I would try completing my fishing log and catch all the fish in the game, little did I know I was about to step into a world of muti-layered rng mess. I enjoyed collecting every item with miner and botanist and it didn't take too long to get my shiny tools, but when it comes to fishing I'll be lucky if I finish in a year!

How does it make sense that I can fail to catch a fish from ARR when I'm in fully pentamelded end game gear (minus the fishing rod). It's even worse if it's a fish that has a short window and a long respawn timer that could take days before you can even attempt to try catching it again (good luck if the fishing window is in the middle of the night). Most of the rare fish have a extremely low chance of even appearing during the time they're available so most of the time you're sitting there getting the wrong fish to bite and when the one you want appears rng decides nope you're not getting it this time. That's not even counting the fish that need double mooches only for the final mooch to end up with the fish either getting away or getting a normally spawning fish appearing ruining your GP because you need Patience to consistently catch HQ fish needed to start mooching.

So you have 1000+ fish to catch to complete your log, most of which are on timers which could possibly take days for them to even be up, a low catch rate with even the best gear (that's if the fish even appears during it's window), and I haven't even started on needing 30+ different baits that takes up a ton of inventory space.

All of this leads to fishing feeling like a total rng game compared to the other gatherers and makes me not want to touch it until it's fixed. Fishing wastes player's time and needs a total rework.

What are some ideas you would implement to make fishing more enjoyable?

You be trollin'.

[Ranaku]

I know it's 100% a troll but just to be sure:

The entire game is a waste of time, surprise! That is what games are made for, basically. To waste your time, mostly, in a fun way. So if you are so much against wasting your time, quit the game go irl fishing and come back after one or two hours and you gladly pick up the XIV fishingrod again.

[Brightamethyst]

Customizable Fishing Chairs and Props.

Oh man... I didn't know I wanted this until just now. We should definitely be able to /cpose between a few different fishing chairs.

[DrWho2010]

1. Tacklebox independent from the inventory itself.
- I'm not certain why we still don't have one..

Mostly because it is not needed. You do not need to have a full complement of every type of bait available in the game available to you at all times.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I know it's 100% a troll but just to be sure:

The entire game is a waste of time, surprise! That is what games are made for, basically. To waste your time, mostly, in a fun way. So if you are so much against wasting your time, quit the game go irl fishing and come back after one or two hours and you gladly pick up the XIV fishingrod again.

This is what hobbies in general are for, not just games.

[ShizukuOikawa]

I don't know what to say... I think fishing is alright in this game. it's better than WoW's fishing cause usually when fishing, you want to alt tab and do other things, multi tasking... not just standing looking at the water... in WoW you gotta alt tab and click the bobber... in here you just have to press two buttons.
My favorite fishing was in Lunia... you could afk and your character just fishes stuff as time goes on automatically.. I don't remember but I think black desert might be the same way? maybe not..

But fishing in FFXIV doesn't seem that bad to me.. yeah it's rng... so what.. I guess it is really hard to catch some fish... but that's normal and okay to me. I'm stuck on that level 53 fishing quest... [SPOILER]where you have to fish up 3 HQ ice picks... they cost 80k for all 3 I think in the market... seems like a good way to make money.. but dang... they're insanely hard to catch... I barely caught 2 normal ones in over 15 minutes fishing. [/SPOILER]