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  1. #581
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    Naiadini_Tyaka's Avatar
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    Naiadini Tyaka
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    Moogle
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Also here to vote for RS. He is, as a previous poster said, just damn bloody good at it.
    One would think a self proclaimed multi millionaire could find a better use for his/her spare time instead of retaliating on people who are dedicating time and effort to doing what they enjoy ingame.
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  2. #582
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anya_Synia View Post
    So the lesson here is dont assume everyone is a bot. There are people who do just play the markets.
    It's doubtful they're going to listen to you anymore than they've been willing to listen to me. They'd rather believe everyone else is cheating instead of accepting that just maybe some of those other players are more dedicated to making crafting and the marketboard their game play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naiadini_Tyaka View Post
    Also here to vote for RS. He is, as a previous poster said, just damn bloody good at it.
    One would think a self proclaimed multi millionaire could find a better use for his/her spare time instead of retaliating on people who are dedicating time and effort to doing what they enjoy ingame.
    Hate to say it but it's just a reflection of real life where some rich people focus on digging up dirt real or imagined to defame and push their competition out of business so they can get richer.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-06-2021 at 05:11 AM.

  3. #583
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I have always told anyone that asks me how I was successful on the MB that you have to treat it like a job if you want to make gil at it. having some expectation that you can list and walk away expecting it to miraculously sell with the bots and competition is asking for disappointment. personally I always enjoyed competing against a real player, and you can tell, there are patterns just like with bots, its as close as I'll get to pvp lol

    the bots can go, people knowing how to market, well, they can most certainly stay or it would be a dull part of the game indeed
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  4. #584
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    Mugenity's Avatar
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    Tifadore Valorheart
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    The bots came out of the closet like crickets yesterday on my server. I've been selling stuff on the market for a longer period of time and it was easy for me to spot this abnormal behavior pattern, especially considering the server I'm on is one of the lowest populated there is and suddenly a rather modest market gets flooded with items at the same time. The bots probably awakened because the game has gotten much more popular lately. As OP says if the bots are allowed to reign the market board will be just another NPC, except the money goes to illegal gold selling against government rules across the world for tax evasion and money laundering. Wouldn't be surprised if SE got into legal issues over that if that's how it ends up.
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  5. #585
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Seems like it's the same story everywhere.

    Some people were honestly assuming some botting circles had gotten banned as a lot of them suddenly disappeared a couple months back, but it seems like their subs just expired simultaneously because most of said bots are now back to their usual market flooding.
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  6. #586
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    Nepentha's Avatar
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Brynhildr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Seems like it's the same story everywhere.

    Some people were honestly assuming some botting circles had gotten banned as a lot of them suddenly disappeared a couple months back, but it seems like their subs just expired simultaneously because most of said bots are now back to their usual market flooding.
    There is also a lot of new operations popping up. Unsure if it's older operations re-establishing themselves after a ban, or brand new ones. But with the influx of new players, there's suddenly a market to cater to and gather gil from. So, not a surprise.
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  7. #587
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    There is also a lot of new operations popping up. Unsure if it's older operations re-establishing themselves after a ban, or brand new ones. But with the influx of new players, there's suddenly a market to cater to and gather gil from. So, not a surprise.
    let me correct that for you...

    to SELL gil to.

    whole new mess of people that dont like starting with nothing, so a larger market for their "product"
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  8. #588
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Brynhildr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    let me correct that for you...

    to SELL gil to.

    whole new mess of people that dont like starting with nothing, so a larger market for their "product"
    I said: market to cater to and gather gil from

    So I touched on that, too. I mean, they have to get their mitts on gil, to sell to this new market they want to cater to.

    So expect the use of marketbots to gain even more traction and push out player run operations.
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  9. #589
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    Tifadore Valorheart
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    For those wondering what these bots look like or behave like. You can see it here, I took this screen a few minutes ago here:

    They update either at a set time window, or instantly (like after 10 seconds, you can see if their name vanish for a few seconds, that's when they update). Then you hoover over the item to see who made it. The creator and the seller is usually always the same person. You can also rob the bot for some cheap items this way, but best just to report them to Square Enix.

    Here is another one from today, notice that the bot is using different retainers and the update would be impossible for a human to pull off (all came up at the exact same time):

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    Last edited by Mugenity; 08-01-2021 at 04:48 AM.

  10. #590
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    SillyCrow's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    M'yahrah Raha
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    I haven't really noticed them on Primal. Is it a problem on other datacenters specifically?
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