So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[NanaWiloh]

That wasn't the impression I got from the live stream. Is that something you saw in an interview?

More like common sense. Their trying to stop place card clicking. Would not make much sense to have wards where it could still happen. And they sure dont want to enourage house flipping further.

[Jojoya]

More like common sense. Their trying to stop place card clicking. Would not make much sense to have wards where it could still happen. And they sure dont want to enourage house flipping further.

YoshiP said there would be separate first come, first server and lottery wards. He didn't say wards would switch from first come, first serve to lottery after being filled.

Even the latter does little when it comes to house flipping. Flipping would continue to occur through the transfer of FCs. It's not like you need to be a member of a FC to do things with the members in that FC other than converse through FC chat. My FC has extended membership through our Discord. A lot of former members and just general game friends are effectively part of our FC without being in it.

There already are plenty of players who set up (or bought) shell FCs solely to get a house because it was the faster route for getting one when there were private purchase moratoriums on new wards or easier once the moratoriums were lifted but everything was sold. They're technically not abusing the system because they have just the one FC house allowed under the rules. They're just claiming what they're allowed as a FC because they were having difficulty getting it as a private player.

There are only two ways to kill house flipping:

Kill the wards and move to a purely instanced system that lets every player/FC buy the exact plot type they want. Clearly SE has no intention of doing that with the way they keep throwing effort and money at more wards even though nothing they are doing is solving any problems.

Kill FC housing and make all wards personal only through lottery purchase only. Doubt they're going to do that either because that means they'll have to come up with another system to give FCs a shared private space for their members to meet along with host the FC only features that currently require house ownership.

Oh wait, make that three ways:
Kill housing altogether. Can't flip what doesn't exist. That would be a disaster for them. It wouldn't kill the game since there is a sizeable chunk of the player base that cares nothing about housing but it would plant that seed of doubt in people's minds about what might be next to go.

[Nepentha]

YoshiP said there would be separate first come, first server and lottery wards. He didn't say wards would switch from first come, first serve to lottery after being filled.

Even the latter does little when it comes to house flipping. Flipping would continue to occur through the transfer of FCs. It's not like you need to be a member of a FC to do things with the members in that FC other than converse through FC chat. My FC has extended membership through our Discord. A lot of former members and just general game friends are effectively part of our FC without being in it.

There already are plenty of players who set up (or bought) shell FCs solely to get a house because it was the faster route for getting one when there were private purchase moratoriums on new wards or easier once the moratoriums were lifted but everything was sold. They're technically not abusing the system because they have just the one FC house allowed under the rules. They're just claiming what they're allowed as a FC because they were having difficulty getting it as a private player.

There's nothing that'll stop the FC trading unless SE takes a look at FC master turnover. If they made it so you can't turn over FC master to a PC that hasn't been part of the FC for X number of days, it'd curb that though not completely kill it. Shouldn't cause a problem in FCs either. An MIA FC master right now will eventually hand down the position to an active member after what... 45 days?

Make it more difficult for these resellers to pass off acquired housing to their lvl 1 alts to hold, then transfer FC master to buyer. Again, wouldn't kill it, but it'd make it a lot more difficult.

But it'd have to be done with a second punch of a relocation cooldown. 5 minutes is laughably short. I'd go with a 30 day timer. You transfer to a new plot, you're there for the next 30 days. (This also has the benefit of stopping trolls relocating just to mess with people.)

Those two options combined would finally make FC resellers and relocation resellers lives a bit more difficult.

Certainly better than something inane like apartment rent.

[Besame]

YoshiP said there would be separate first come, first server and lottery wards. He didn't say wards would switch from first come, first serve to lottery after being filled.

Even the latter does little when it comes to house flipping. Flipping would continue to occur through the transfer of FCs. It's not like you need to be a member of a FC to do things with the members in that FC other than converse through FC chat. My FC has extended membership through our Discord. A lot of former members and just general game friends are effectively part of our FC without being in it.

There already are plenty of players who set up (or bought) shell FCs solely to get a house because it was the faster route for getting one when there were private purchase moratoriums on new wards or easier once the moratoriums were lifted but everything was sold. They're technically not abusing the system because they have just the one FC house allowed under the rules. They're just claiming what they're allowed as a FC because they were having difficulty getting it as a private player.

There are only two ways to kill house flipping:

Kill the wards and move to a purely instanced system that lets every player/FC buy the exact plot type they want. Clearly SE has no intention of doing that with the way they keep throwing effort and money at more wards even though nothing they are doing is solving any problems.

Kill FC housing and make all wards personal only through lottery purchase only. Doubt they're going to do that either because that means they'll have to come up with another system to give FCs a shared private space for their members to meet along with host the FC only features that currently require house ownership.

Oh wait, make that three ways:
Kill housing altogether. Can't flip what doesn't exist. That would be a disaster for them. It wouldn't kill the game since there is a sizeable chunk of the player base that cares nothing about housing but it would plant that seed of doubt in people's minds about what might be next to go.

Yes please, kill housing so I can finally have the reason to quit the game