FFXIV's technical limitations are beginning to concern me.

[Moonlite]

I hate to tell the people claiming the game has a storage issue that the reality is you have a hoarding issue, especially if you have multiple additional retainers.

I have all crafters and gatherers at 80 and have loads of storage left, holding onto every material you might ever need is just poor inventory managment, especially if they only cost pennies.

Or maybe just maybe the game has bad design, that keeps bringing back old stuff punishing players for getting rid of it.

[Artemiz]

Or maybe just maybe the game has bad design, that keeps bringing back old stuff punishing players for getting rid of it.

What have you been punished for getting rid of?

[Moonlite]

What have you been punished for getting rid of?

You want a list of all the recipes that use old expansion mats? If I get rid of it the game wastes my time to get it again. If I have to buy it when it is needed again it wastes my gil, which I have to use my time to earn. It has zero respect for players time. In fact if anything it creates a system where players would want to buy more space from SE.

[Puremallace]

You want a list of all the recipes that use old expansion mats? If I get rid of it the game wastes my time to get it again. If I have to buy it when it is needed again it wastes my gil, which I have to use my time to earn. It has zero respect for players time. In fact if anything it creates a system where players would want to buy more space from SE.

You do understand this is the reason FF14 has an economy right? Your suggestion would kill 99% of this MMO's economy overnight. This is by far the worst idea I have seen in awhile.

Your solution to a simple bag space issue is to just kill the economy instead of simply increase bag space sizes or give us a better way of storing those items.

Why not give us a crafting bag with 1,000 space where we can store only crafting items and doing crafting uses items from that bag?

[Moonlite]

You do understand this is the reason FF14 has an economy right? Your suggestion would kill 99% of this MMO's economy overnight. This is by far the worst idea I have seen in awhile.

Your solution to a simple bag space issue is to just kill the economy instead of simply increase bag space sizes or give us a better way of storing those items.

Why not give us a crafting bag with 1,000 space where we can store only crafting items and doing crafting uses items from that bag?

A) it wouldn't kill economy it would make only one expansion relevant. B) I want more space, SE said they can't. Are we going to say they are lieing?

[Artemiz]

You want a list of all the recipes that use old expansion mats? If I get rid of it the game wastes my time to get it again. If I have to buy it when it is needed again it wastes my gil, which I have to use my time to earn. It has zero respect for players time. In fact if anything it creates a system where players would want to buy more space from SE.

If you can buy the materials from vendors, we are talking pennies, seriously. By keeping something like fleece (just as an example) it gives new players something to sell and if you take 30 minutes you can farm them up easy. It's an MMO, farming isn't a new concept.

[Artemiz]

A) it wouldn't kill economy it would make only one expansion relevant. B) I want more space, SE said they can't. Are we going to say they are lieing?

This has got to be one of the most short sighted arguments I've seen lately. One of the biggest criticisms right now for WoW is that only recent content is worth playing, in contrast FFXIV gets lots of praise for keeping old content relevant. This is a massive contributor to it's continued growth and appeal. By making everything except the latest expansion pointless you are selling new players, the economy and future growth down for river for..... more bag space because you resent having to farm for 30 minutes. OK.....

[Moonlite]

If you can buy the materials from vendors, we are talking pennies, seriously. By keeping something like fleece (just as an example) it gives new players something to sell and if you take 30 minutes you can farm them up easy. It's an MMO, farming isn't a new concept.

Then put it on vendors. I don't carry anything that a vendor has. You still ignored the fact that the game doesn't respect my time by making go spend another 30 mins. And SE is the one who benefits the most from this in actual real world dollars.

This has got to be one of the most short sighted arguments I've seen lately. One of the biggest criticisms right now for WoW is that only recent content is worth playing, in contrast FFXIV gets lots of praise for keeping old content relevant. This is a massive contributor to it's continued growth and appeal. By making everything except the latest expansion pointless you are selling new players, the economy and future growth down for river for..... more bag space because you resent having to farm for 30 minutes. OK.....

Yes that is the biggest criticism of WoW is that only recent content is playable. Nothing to do with quality of patches or time in between. Good thing I don't question a design that is from basic F2P games, design something that can be solved with cash. OK.....

[TeraRamis]

A) it wouldn't kill economy it would make only one expansion relevant. B) I want more space, SE said they can't. Are we going to say they are lieing?

I think they are doing a form of lying, yes. I don't think increasing bag space or glamour storage is unfeasible because the limitations are self-imposed. Rather, I believe this is more of a case of "that's too much work/expense for little (in our [SE's] minds) payoff." Or, as Ion Hazzikostas would so delightfully put it: "that would cost you a raid tier."

[Artemiz]

Then put it on vendors. I don't carry anything that a vendor has. You still ignored the fact that the game doesn't respect my time by making go spend another 30 mins. And SE is the one who benefits the most from this in actual real world dollars.

Putting them on vendors will still kill the economy especially for new players.

Yes that is the biggest criticism of WoW is that only recent content is playable. Nothing to do with quality of patches or time in between. Good thing I don't question a design that is from basic F2P games, design something that can be solved with cash. OK.....

Have you even played a F2P game? To compare FFXIV to the predatory tactics used in those games is just silly. This game gives you tons of storage, if you choose to waste it in the hope that you won't have to farm fleece in 3 years time then that's on you. It would be nice if we got more inventory, but we can't have it, I'd advise you stop wasting what you have then.

You talk like the game is personally disrespecting you because it doesn't give you enough inventory, the games responsibility is to give players a reasonable amount of space for an average player, any more and it's wasting server resources so they have to find a balance.

Either way, make what you have work or moan about it, up to you.