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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    Ooh, that might be interesting. We know the Ascians encourage the use of voidsent by mortals (eg the Haukke and Shisui incidents in the MSQ), and the Garleans are apparently the chosen race of at least one Ascian to bring down the Calamities, like the Allagans were (or whatever civilization eventually became the Allagans). There may have been some tinkering going on.
    Maybe the Reaper soul crystal will be a black crystal with a little red drop of Garlean blood in the center.

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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

  2. #52
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    Sathona Jun
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Labyrinthos being directly below Old Sharlayan is an interesting development. Perhaps that’s where the locked room G’raha is, or maybe a connecting tunnel?

    Either way, the previews certainly didn’t give the impression all was well there, a bad sign for Old Sharlayan itself.
    G'raha seems to be at their forbidden archives, judging by the chained doors.
    I doubt we will get access to Labyrinthos so easily/peacefully, considering we are dealing with well..sharlayans.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I've always (maybe incorrectly lmk) that when one dies in Eorzea, their body and 'energy' (aka aether) go back to the world (the body rots the aether can be manipulated and goes back to hydealyn as far as I understand) and then their soul (from what I gather, in eorzea its one's conciousness, personality, memories, emotions etc) alwasy go back to the lifestream regardless of any other conditions, so when u 'use' a soul, you are just using someones energy.
    There is also this thing of the end of the heavensward storyline where: Spoiler warning for 3.3:
    Haurchefant and Ysayle allow you to be able to sustain Nidhog's power and cast the eyes unto the abyss, even though they died in the storyline, so does this mean sometimes ppl stay as ghosts?
    Honestly I wonder if maybe the reaper job talking about souls just means that aether that is left behind (the energy you meant) but calls it a soul because the people that are using the job dont know better?

    Also in that regards...what happend to Moen or Papalymo? Did they give up their whole souls thus also their chance to reincarnate when they turned themselves into aether..or was it also just a part of it?

    I wonder if we ever will get an answer to that.
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  4. #54
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    I am still curious what kind of Jobs that they may create in the future if they want to focus on the more Modern society of the Garlean Empire.

    Reaper lore is going to be pre-Garlean Empire lore focusing on people who were focus on surviving and potentially how they may have influenced the creation of the Garlean Empire.

    However, the more recent things shown about the Garlean Capital being a modern city, despite being in a apocalyptic scenario, really opens up a lot of potential jobs that can be created by modern society life in the Garlean Empire. After all modern problems require modern solutions especially how life for Garleans focus less on depending on Magic and more on advancement of technology.
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  5. #55
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    I wouldn't necessarily count on spending too much time with the garleans rebuilding to a 'modern' society or getting jobs from it if they do. Jobs tend to relate to new or upcoming areas when they're released.

    Ninja with Doma, and the doman refugees who were a plot point in the 2.X patches, and somewhere we eventually went.
    The HW jobs with Ishgard, along with Sharlayan for AST in particular.
    Ala Mhigo/gyr abania for red mage and hingashi/doma for samurai.
    Thavnair for dancer, Bozja for gunbreaker.
    Sharlayan and Garlemald for sage and Reaper.

    They don't tend to go back to prior areas as mining material for new jobs. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath for future garlean jobs coming out past 6.0, when there will also still be new regions and lore to draw inspiration from for jobs.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I wouldn't necessarily count on spending too much time with the garleans rebuilding to a 'modern' society or getting jobs from it if they do. Jobs tend to relate to new or upcoming areas when they're released.

    Ninja with Doma, and the doman refugees who were a plot point in the 2.X patches, and somewhere we eventually went.
    The HW jobs with Ishgard, along with Sharlayan for AST in particular.
    Ala Mhigo/gyr abania for red mage and hingashi/doma for samurai.
    Thavnair for dancer, Bozja for gunbreaker.
    Sharlayan and Garlemald for sage and Reaper.

    They don't tend to go back to prior areas as mining material for new jobs. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath for future garlean jobs coming out past 6.0, when there will also still be new regions and lore to draw inspiration from for jobs.
    This statement will only be true if all expansion actually had jobs focus on all the new areas released each expansion. Shadowbringers break that due to Dancer and arguably Gunbreaker based on the person discussing this topic.

    Dancer in 5.0 is a job of Thavnair origins which we do not get until 6.0. If this was consistent with the belief all new jobs is focused on only new regions released in the expansion they are released in then Dancer should have had a 1st Shard origin or Ilsabard origin like Gunbreaker instead.

    Gunbreaker is arguable mostly because the new region in 5.0 it is based on for lore origin story is a side content we don't actually explore as part of the Main Storyline but instead is a side content instance location people who do not follow the Resistance side storyline will easily miss. People are still debating today if we may get Ilsabard as a normal map in a future expansion since Resistance maybe a setup for it in a future expansion.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I am still curious what kind of Jobs that they may create in the future if they want to focus on the more Modern society of the Garlean Empire.
    Apothecary. Yes, I will stay on this hill until the day we get a Chemist-type healer, and I will stay here to my death.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    This statement will only be true if all expansion actually had jobs focus on all the new areas released each expansion. Shadowbringers break that due to Dancer and arguably Gunbreaker based on the person discussing this topic.

    Dancer in 5.0 is a job of Thavnair origins which we do not get until 6.0. If this was consistent with the belief all new jobs is focused on only new regions released in the expansion they are released in then Dancer should have had a 1st Shard origin or Ilsabard origin like Gunbreaker instead.

    Gunbreaker is arguable mostly because the new region in 5.0 it is based on for lore origin story is a side content we don't actually explore as part of the Main Storyline but instead is a side content instance location people who do not follow the Resistance side storyline will easily miss. People are still debating today if we may get Ilsabard as a normal map in a future expansion since Resistance maybe a setup for it in a future expansion.
    I didn't specify areas in the expansion they came in, but rather 'future' areas.

    With Ninja, we didn't have doma yet but would eventually go there. Same with Dancer and Thavnair. New jobs have been tied to either areas we go to in the expansion they're introduced, or in the future.

    We've never gotten a new job so far that has looked BACK at old areas from prior expansions. No pirate job from limsans, or a 'ranger' job from Gridania etc.

    The jobs have been forward looking to new areas. Sometimes areas in the same expansion they're introduce, like machinist, samurai etc. Sometimes into areas we haven't gone yet but are on the table, like dancer, ninja etc.

    They could always buck this trend, it's not a hard fast rule they have to follow. But I would honestly be surprised if after 6.0 is said and done they decided 'hey let's go back to garlemald and make another job from there' etc. Or Ul'dah or Ishgard etc.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    G'raha seems to be at their forbidden archives, judging by the chained doors.
    I realize that it's just for the sake of a dramatic trailer shot, but I always found it amusingly odd how we swept in through these large, chained doors, to find G'raha perusing a book inside, and we have no idea how he got in.

    Or how he got out, given he was later seen walking out through the (now open) doors, but the chains are all on the outside...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I realize that it's just for the sake of a dramatic trailer shot, but I always found it amusingly odd how we swept in through these large, chained doors, to find G'raha perusing a book inside, and we have no idea how he got in.

    Or how he got out, given he was later seen walking out through the (now open) doors, but the chains are all on the outside...
    Natural cat abilities?

    Residual effects of exposure to Alexander's power giving him Schrödinger's ability to slip in and out of anywhere?

    "Throw wide the gates that we may pass"?
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