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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Isn't this is what you have been promoting?
    I am just going to get my pop corn and diet coke ready for tear flooding this forum once the feature is installed
    /sunglass
    Partially, yes. But here's the thing, we don't know specifics. As we have seen from NUMEROUS game promotions, any idea can be presented in a way that will cause hype... but what the actual implementation of that idea and the hype surrounding it may be two very different things.

    For all we know, this lotto could really be an auto allocation system based upon neighborhood and house type, and you enter the queue and eventually get your house and it happens to be called a "lotto".

    We simply do not have enough information at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    We all know how a lotto works we don't need it explained its not complicated. Has been said already you have been warned enjoy the Lynch mob
    Oh yes, completely rational and mature people want to go lynch someone because Yoshi-P said "lotto" and "housing" in the same sentence and provided no other additional information. Reminds me of a movie quote:

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    Tbh, this set of changes raises more questions than it does provide answers as (again) we need more information. Specifically:
    • Does the lotto system come with the abolition of the flip timer?
    • Are they going to split the FC and personal houses by cloning all the wards, deleting the duplicate FC houses out of one set (making it personal house only) while doing the same for personal houses (making it FC only) in the other set?
    • Are we going to have wards that are mixed, FC only, and personal only moving forward?
    • How does buying a lotto ticket work?
    • Can I buy more than one lotto ticket for a house?
    • Will I expect to see a refund of some kind from the lotto system?

    As I have been saying throughout this thread, the chicken little overreaction to Yoshi-P mentioning housing is completely unwarranted because all he's effectively said is "things will change" and we don't have any additional data (or if there is, please link it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Oh yes, completely rational and mature people want to go lynch someone because Yoshi-P said "lotto" and "housing" in the same sentence and provided no other additional information. Reminds me of a movie quote:

    Yep, That's Right play dumb early and play dumb loudly. Wont save you just like it has not saved from your past support of bad idea's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Yep, That's Right play dumb early and play dumb loudly. Wont save you just like it has not saved from your past support of bad idea's.
    You know I'm pointing at the truth, and you can't handle it, so you're gonna blame me for all of the game's problems instead of facing that truth: You are reacting to almost no information with emotionally driven panic instead of thinking critically about what has been said.

    I'll continue to make suggestions, and we'll see how it goes. That's how a growth mindset works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    You know I'm pointing at the truth, and you can't handle it, so you're gonna blame me for all of the game's problems instead of facing that truth: You are reacting to almost no information with emotionally driven panic instead of thinking critically about what has been said.

    I'll continue to make suggestions, and we'll see how it goes. That's how a growth mindset works.
    Lol My responses are far from emotion driven :P we know how a lotto works you are ignoring that for a dream land idea it will be something different. But hey you are under the belief that rng deciding who out of the 100's if not 1000's of players per world. Will get one of the small number of homes that are up for sale will make things better. Well then not even Spock from Star trek could fix your Illogical thought process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Oh yes, completely rational and mature people want to go lynch someone because Yoshi-P said "lotto" and "housing" in the same sentence and provided no other additional information. Reminds me of a movie quote:

    "Lynching" is an exaggeration on a few levels, but there will be those looking around for someone to blame. Wonder who's going to be front and center? Those in support of a lottery system. lol Sure, we don't have all of the facts, and a bunch of us could very well eat our words in the end. I can accept that. But a lottery is pretty straight forward in concept, and we have been saying for MONTHS that there's more cons than pros in such a system. But...a bunch of uninformed and desperate players wanted it anyway. Cool. Enjoy that I guess. Let's not ask for real solutions. Clearly we don't need those!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Lol My responses are far from emotion driven :P we know how a lotto works you are ignoring that for a dream land idea it will be something different. But hey you are under the belief that rng deciding who out of the 100's if not 1000's of players per world. Will get one of the small number of homes that are up for sale will make things better. Well then not even Spock from Star trek could fix your Illogical thought process.
    Nah, Spock would be too mentally damaged to be considered Vulcan after looking at yours first =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    "Lynching" is an exaggeration on a few levels, but there will be those looking around for someone to blame. Wonder who's going to be front and center? Those in support of a lottery system. lol Sure, we don't have all of the facts, and a bunch of us could very well eat our words in the end. I can accept that. But a lottery is pretty straight forward in concept, and we have been saying for MONTHS that there's more cons than pros in such a system. But...a bunch of uninformed and desperate players wanted it anyway. Cool. Enjoy that I guess. Let's not ask for real solutions. Clearly we don't need those!
    They will learn the hard way and be wiser or continue down the road of not listening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    "Lynching" is an exaggeration on a few levels, but there will be those looking around for someone to blame.
    Nothing new there... the weak will always blame someone else rather than be introspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Sure, we don't have all of the facts, and a bunch of us could very well eat our words in the end. I can accept that. But a lottery is pretty straight forward in concept, and we have been saying for MONTHS that there's more cons than pros in such a system. But...a bunch of uninformed and desperate players wanted it anyway. Cool. Enjoy that I guess. Let's not ask for real solutions. Clearly we don't need those!
    The complete lack of information on what SE is doing with regards to supply opens up an entire spectrum of possibility. On one end of the spectrum, if nothing is done to address the housing supply issues then the lotto will definitely make things worse.

    However, it may end up being a wash if (for example) SE also does the following with the update:
    • Each ward gets 20 wards that are personal house only, and another 10 that are FC only
    • Island Sanctuaries is a strictly better replacement for gardening
    • Players get a workshop through Garlond Ironworks that is an exact duplicate of the FC workshop

    The point here is that we don't know, and the more measured (and mature) response is "what was said on the live stream is interesting, but we need more information" rather than the hysterical reactions many have posted on this thread.
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