Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[Duskane]

I feel like they get too much of a say, or rather are catered to too much. It's how we get things like G'raha Tia.

and who is G'raha tia catering to specifically.

[Nanchi]

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Most of those are mog station items which usually are gender locked since they sell the other version separately (I despise that business strategy but it is what it is) or fanfest items who all have their female counterpart.

I feel like they get too much of a say, or rather are catered to too much. It's how we get things like G'raha Tia.

Yeah sure, let's have SE listen to the person who keeps labeling G'raha as a "thing". And what's so bad about pandering? We should be pandered too. This game is diverse enough that there is something for everyone, any other mmo pales in comparison, where every dude looks like a middle aged man on steroids and women all have the same hourglass figure with copy paste faces (admittedly we have the same in ffxiv but you can at least choose to still have variety). Male Viera take nothing away from existing players, yet some people feel threatened, it's bizarre.

[Senn]

and who is G'raha tia catering to specifically.

I wonder about that myself. Some people here are saying twitter/reddit users are being catered to or something, but be more specific. What kind of people are they referring to exactly?

[SturmChurro]

and who is G'raha tia catering to specifically.

As I stated prior:

just feels like massive fan service, specifically catered to like the twitter, or reddit crowd.

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Yeah sure, let's have SE listen to the person who keeps labeling G'raha as a "thing". And what's so bad about pandering? We should be pandered too. This game is diverse enough that there is something for everyone, any other mmo pales in comparison, where every dude looks like a middle aged man on steroids and women all have the same hourglass figure with copy paste faces (admittedly we have the same in ffxiv but you can at least choose to still have variety). Male Viera take nothing away from existing players, yet some people feel threatened, it's bizarre.

I never intended to play male viera in the first place, though I did support their inclusion in the male viera thread. I think male viera look bad, and don't look like how I imagined them in the lore. They are supposed to be wild protectors of the forest, trained killers, feared by those who enter the forest, etc.. yet they DEFINITELY look nothing like that, in my opinion. I don't know what I or other people would supposedly feel "threatened" about either, frankly.

[Duskane]

you really let Twitter and Reddit live rent free and think everyone on there is the same.

[SturmChurro]

you really let Twitter and Reddit live rent free and think everyone on there is the same.

I just wish SE would consider other opinions outside of these areas as well. I'd love to see them more active on the forums here!

Also, of course I do not think everyone there is the same, however these platforms are based on upvotes, likes, shares, etc.. What is the most popular on these platforms is what SE will see the most of, presumably.

[Evergrey]

They are supposed to be wild protectors of the forest, trained killers, feared by those who enter the forest, etc.. yet they DEFINITELY look nothing like that, in my opinion. I don't know what I or other people would supposedly feel "threatened" about either, frankly.

If you google deadliest wild cat you get this.



Just because something doesn't have a fierce look or look like a total badass doesn't mean they're any less dangerous.
But yes, I understand and I do agree to some degree that the visual aspect is important.
The appearance is the first thing people will notice and from that get an impression of what that character is capable of.
But just like how one shouldn't judge a book by its cover one shouldn't disregard the possibilities that even if it doesn't look so it can just as well be so.

[Nanchi]

As I stated prior:
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They went with, what they felt, was the most popular interpretation of male Viera and it worked. They got their inspiration from fanworks, mostly JP artworks I might add. And thank everything for that, because we don't need another case of Aura.

[SturmChurro]

If you google deadliest wild cat you get this.



Just because something doesn't have a fierce look or look like a total [...] doesn't mean they're any less dangerous.
But yes, I understand and I do agree to some degree that the visual aspect is important.
The appearance is the first thing people will notice and from that get an impression of what that character is capable of.
But just like how one shouldn't judge a book by its cover one shouldn't disregard the possibilities that even if it doesn't look so it can just as well be so.

This supposed "world's deadliest cat" is an animal that hunts small prey:

Due to its small size, the black-footed cat hunts mainly small prey such as rodents and small birds, but also preys on Cape hare (Lepus capensis), being heavier than itself.

With context taken into account, male viera would be up against a much different kind of enemy (prey) than this cat example. We are talking Garlean invasion forces, large monsters, etc. etc. Plus up against the environment itself.

They went with, what they felt, was the most popular interpretation of male Viera and it worked. They got their inspiration from fanworks, mostly JP artworks I might add. And thank everything for that, because we don't need another case of Aura.

They just simply aren't how I imagined them. I hoped they would get options that I'd personally like more, but that wasn't the case.

[Evergrey]

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And this is a video game so if they want pretty bunny bois to be able to repel larger prey they can make it so.
All I wanted to show was that appearance isn't everything when it comes to what something is capable of.