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    Sch in the new benchmark trailer

    I read through some Reddit post and saw this one response that triggered my interest. They said the sch skill looks allot like haste since it has the sound kinda like how fey wind use to sound. With the little lines too so of course I went back to look and looked a few times and it does look like some kind of buff. Could be haste. Some people also said it could be an upgraded excog. I don’t think so. Excog works beautifully now so there is no reason to change it. Unless they will add the haste effect to excog as well. So idk lol. I hope it is haste tbh.
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    I agree that some of the particles look like fey wind. However you can clearly see a bubble forming around the paladin. Better yet, the sch and whm were both using defensive actions to protect the paladin from the big hit. I'm more leaning towards an oGCD single target shield (a weaker version of adlo but oGCD, like a bension) or maybe its a defensive CD that reduces damage taken and also put a regen on the target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighearth View Post
    I agree that some of the particles look like fey wind. However you can clearly see a bubble forming around the paladin. Better yet, the sch and whm were both using defensive actions to protect the paladin from the big hit. I'm more leaning towards an oGCD single target shield (a weaker version of adlo but oGCD, like a bension) or maybe its a defensive CD that reduces damage taken and also put a regen on the target.
    I can understand why you would say that. Guess I’m thinking outside the box a little. To me it could be a haste type move while the whm was the shield. Then he sped forward so fast. Could it have been his gap closer? Maybe, but as I said I’m thinking outside the box. With that sound it definitely sounds more like haste than a shield on top of whm shield. That would be weird to show.
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    You can see three things:

    -Ground blue aura around the character as the skill is triggered, meaning this is no spell, but rather an Ability, just like Excogitation, Aetherflow or Deployment Tactics.

    -Like Excogitation, the animation for this new skill has the Scholar tear a page out of their grimmoire and toss it in the air.

    -It has a bubble effect around the target with vertical distortion lines, similar but not exactly quite like the haste effect we've seen in the past.

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    Yea, to be honest, I think it's a shield.

    An instant cast shield is something SCH's needed for a while, personally (to be honest, Adlo should've been instant cast, but have no heal to it). In fact, the spell effect looks a lot like adlo once I think about it. Just that the casting animation is closer to excog.

    While I do think excog should be upgraded (something closer to a full heal to deal with so many 1hp tank CDs nowadays, especially living dead), doing an offensive buff on a tank is kinda worthless. I know that they do worthless things on the various demos, but it really feels like some sort of shield to me, since there's a clear bubble effect going on.
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    I see you guys point. Guess we will find out in mid September when they discuss the battle system. I’m sure they will explain what they did to each job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dearche View Post
    Yea, to be honest, I think it's a shield.
    The thing is...The game has always been very specific about how to represent shields and barriers visually. They always have some sort of geometric pattern on the surface of the barrier if only to imply some form of structural defense, that being hexagons, weave of lines or triangular crystals (in Sage's case).

    This spell looks so flat. The sphere is just a green bubble, which makes me think it might not be a shield. Maybe it's just a shorter version of the "Lost Bubble" spell from Bozja, extending the tank's max HP for a set amount of time. It would be like a shield yes with the difference that it is not really consumed by damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    The thing is...The game has always been very specific about how to represent shields and barriers visually. They always have some sort of geometric pattern on the surface of the barrier if only to imply some form of structural defense, that being hexagons, weave of lines or triangular crystals (in Sage's case).

    This spell looks so flat. The sphere is just a green bubble, which makes me think it might not be a shield. Maybe it's just a shorter version of the "Lost Bubble" spell from Bozja, extending the tank's max HP for a set amount of time. It would be like a shield yes with the difference that it is not really consumed by damage.
    Ohhhh I didn’t even consider that. You might be into something.
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    Same with Haste effects. They all use very distinct visual cues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    The thing is...The game has always been very specific about how to represent shields and barriers visually. They always have some sort of geometric pattern on the surface of the barrier if only to imply some form of structural defense, that being hexagons, weave of lines or triangular crystals (in Sage's case).

    This spell looks so flat. The sphere is just a green bubble, which makes me think it might not be a shield. Maybe it's just a shorter version of the "Lost Bubble" spell from Bozja, extending the tank's max HP for a set amount of time. It would be like a shield yes with the difference that it is not really consumed by damage.
    That's a neat idea, but it suffers from one issue: HP extension is practically speaking, the same as a shield. Just that others can help boost the effect once damage comes in.

    Though speaking of that, the spell effect does kinda look like Nascent Flash on WAR, though the effect there is a drain.
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