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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    Why you have your own problems and hopefully it has been resolved by now Adamantoise has become a den of toxic players. Maybe this has some correlation with major wow streamers playing FF and getting more outside attention causing all sorts of colorful people to play the game. While I rejoice in popularity of the game I am concern of the certain players who do not share the same respect as the rest of us.


    Things I have been noticing is the harassment of players and offensive and vulgar names. This has got to stop and the TOS team needs to act fast and hard. The very culture of 14 is at stake here. I don't want it to devolve into WoWs community or worse.
    Hey Im with you. I dont want the WoW toxicity here too. Hell there's a few on this very thread who fit the bill.

    But I gotta repeat myself here in wanting some hard evidence. Like I said earlier in WoW its very easy to find and document toxicity. Right now the only hard evidence of toxicity in game comes from the FF14 community with how they tried to sabotage Asmongolds gameplay.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildTamarind View Post
    Hey Im with you. I dont want the WoW toxicity here too. Hell there's a few on this very thread who fit the bill.

    But I gotta repeat myself here in wanting some hard evidence. Like I said earlier in WoW its very easy to find and document toxicity. Right now the only hard evidence of toxicity in game comes from the FF14 community with how they tried to sabotage Asmongolds gameplay.
    lol, you don't get out much. Plenty of toxicity in FFXIV from the bowels of RP to raiding.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    lol, you don't get out much. Plenty of toxicity in FFXIV from the bowels of RP to raiding.
    Most I've seen ingame has been from the trolls early pulling hunts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Any group that has a political leaning is no longer neutral and unbiased. Simple as.
    Very true, but sadly you have people who try to list anything actually factual and backed up by real world data as fake news, turning believing factual data into a political leaning. In other words, people are turning everything political because they cannot handle reality.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Most I've seen ingame has been from the trolls early pulling hunts.


    Very true, but sadly you have people who try to list anything actually factual and backed up by real world data as fake news, turning believing factual data into a political leaning. In other words, people are turning everything political because they cannot handle reality.
    Well, to take a counter stance to that I would say it's not necessarily the data that issue is taken with but rather how that data is interpreted. Two people can see the same data and come to two different conclusions, who is right?
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    Some dude called me a slur a few days ago, doesn’t mean the entire games toxicity is off the charts. One person doesn’t turn the whole game into a cesspool they stand out more but aren’t the majority
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Well, to take a counter stance to that I would say it's not necessarily the data that issue is taken with but rather how that data is interpreted. Two people can see the same data and come to two different conclusions, who is right?
    Well, if the data is 1+1=2, and 1 guy says no its fish, no matter how much he interprets it differently, he's wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Well, if the data is 1+1=2, and 1 guy says no its fish, no matter how much he interprets it differently, he's wrong.
    If you screw up your floating point math unit, 1+1=3 for very large values of 1.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    If you screw up your floating point math unit, 1+1=3 for very large values of 1.
    Yeah, but that's messing up the math, not interpretation of data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Well, if the data is 1+1=2, and 1 guy says no its fish, no matter how much he interprets it differently, he's wrong.
    Issue with this is that's not data interpretation nor even really data. That's a shallow point being made with math.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Issue with this is that's not data interpretation nor even really data. That's a shallow point being made with math.
    Good data tends to only have 1 objective interpretation though. If it's "open ended" it's bad data and shouldn't be used.

    At least, scientifically.

    Subjective data is different, but that's opinions, and not really the same thing.
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