Dark Knight Megathread

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I kinda wish they'd just ditch Role Actions altogether. No more Rampart for all Tanks, instead we get Rampart for Paladin, Foresight for Warrior, Shadowskin for Dark Knight, and something new for Gunbreaker. No more Esuna for all Healers, instead we get Esuna for White Mage, Leeches for Scholar, Exalted Detriment for Astrologian, and something new for Sage. Yoshi-P talked about wanting to focus on Job identity going into Endwalker, maybe give Jobs unique animations rather than making them share generic Role Actions. Not like they don't have a lot of old animations floating around somewhere seeing as how Foresight, Shadowskin, Leeches, and Exalted Detriment used to be in the game and were killed for Role Actions. How the kit functions is one part of Job identity, how it looks is another part, and stuff like Rampart doesn't scream Dark Knight, it's just Tank.

More or less what I was thinking, yeh... /slight smile
some Role Actions are sort of fine to me, such as Provoke, Interject, Shirk, and some Role Actions I sort of forgive, Low Blow and Reprisal, though I have
a concept for Dark Knight gaining two new "Slash" actions, remasters of old Low Blow and old Reprisal, but.. the Rampart, I do not forgive that one.

And did the man himself really say that? ...To focus on Job Identity in EndWalker... Gods forgive me if I am dumb enough to hope that 6.0 really will be redemption for Dark Knight, if we can make the safe assumption of that means the possibility of no more WAR clone.. perhaps the things in Dark Knight threads are being considered...

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And did the man himself really say that? ...To focus on Job Identity in EndWalker...

I haven't seen Yoshi-P even mention the term 'job identity', but pretty much everyone else is demanding it.

I could've sworn that Koji or Yoshi-P said it during either the Announcement Showcase or the FanFest Keynote Address. I dug through the slides and wasn't seeing anything, nor did I see the words "Job identity" when I did a Google search for Endwalker interviews with Yoshi-P, and so it might be something that was simply spoken during the stream with no slide backing it up. The FFXIV subreddit Discord didn't bother doing their usual translation for either of those because we got the stream in English at the same time so I think I'd be in for the long haul of sitting through both streams until I either come across it or don't. At the very least, the closest thing I found was from this Famitsu interview:

But of course, just because our main character is using Paladin this time does not mean we’re giving it a favor… so this is something I can say that is not limited to Paladin but to all jobs here, this also applies to parts where people would go “We want that too!” and by making it look even more awesome would make players who have their own favorite job like them more.

I might've just misinterpreted that as Yoshi-P wanting to make sure the dev team nails the theme of a Job by giving them awesome looking abilities. Sorry if I gave any false hope, will rewatch both streams when I have the time. Really hoping I didn't provide misinformation there, sorry in advance if I am wrong. I'll go back to my previous post and cross that bit out for now.

The absolute worst thing you could do from a game design standpoint is make several identical abilities and then make one just slightly better. Because then you can directly compare them and know that you're being shafted on the deal. Vengeance is an example of this. The smart thing to do would have been to add a unique special effect to each one of the 30% damage reduction cooldowns that you couldn't compare the effectiveness of.

Yeah, this one irks me. I'm amazed that Vengeance has kept the thorns effect for so long given how gung-ho they've been about homogenizing everything, like when they turned Rampart into the Role Action at the start of Stormblood. Ideally I'd like to see the other three 30% mitigation tools get a unique effect to them as well, like Shadow Wall getting the old Blood Price MP restore which can be used on Flood/Edge (or Dark Arts is a miracle happens and that returns), but realistically we'll probably either see nothing special added to Sentinel/Shadow Wall/Nebula, or the removal of thorns from Vengeance. Would be nice to get proven wrong though.