The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

[Yeol]

The only people who would find him would be those who are looking for him, and that's generally going to be the gazillion Twitch followers.

Do not blame the "FF community".

FFXIV players can play both FFXIV & WoW.
They can follow Asmon on social media even if they don't play WoW.
They could have heard that Asmon was coming to FFXIV from FFXIV content creators.
Are those not a part of the FFXIV community?

The behavior displayed last night was mostly caused by FFXIV players with max-level characters. Whether you like it or not, these players are a part of the FFXIV community. Bad actions speak louder than good ones.

[Sotaris]

Excuse me? People in the "FF community" don't necessarily follow the Great Twitch Idol, nor is His presence announced in the Square Enix notes on the Launcher or when you first log in. The only people who would find him would be those who are looking for him, and that's generally going to be the gazillion Twitch followers.

Do not blame the "FF community".

I'm going to blame the "not toxic" community, it's a voval minority here and on reddit that is giving everyone a bad rep.

Such as this person: https://imgur.com/a/eRQSzvG and there been reports many people been rallying over discord to make it a living hell for Asmongold.

It wasn't his fanbase running around with Ultimate titles and spaming holy and griefing, it was already playing FF14 players.

I get that you don't like it but don't act like our player base isn't toxic cause we are, and not as welcomed to wow players as you might think. But I guess when you have a agenda that don't matter.

FFXIV players can play both FFXIV & WoW.
They can follow Asmon on social media even if they don't play WoW.
They could have heard that Asmon was coming to FFXIV from FFXIV content creators.
Are those not a part of the FFXIV community?

The behavior displayed last night was mostly caused by FFXIV players with max-level characters. Whether you like it or not, these players are a part of the FFXIV community. Bad actions speak louder than good ones.

This.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Wait I'm confused, how can people play both games but his fans can't have ultimate titles and savage mounts?

[Sotaris]

Wait I'm confused, how can people play both games but his fans can't have ultimate titles and savage mounts?

You can, but I think it's pretty safe to say that the odds of people being in his chat wanting him NOT to play the game and having Ultimate and savage mounts is pretty slim, but not impossible.

Some people have this weird head canon that FFXIV community is trying to stop him playing the game

Edit : this nice outdated forum removed half of my post which I wrote after I used an mobile emoji which isn't supported it seems

Not really a conspiracy when you had people literally saying this ingame and on social media.

[Krotoan]

You can, but I think it's pretty safe to say that the odds of people being in his chat wanting him NOT to play the game and having Ultimate and savage mounts is pretty slim, but not impossible.

I'm going to say you don't know his community then. They're not doing this because they don't want him to play. They're doing it to annoy him. Because they like doing that and he "reacts" to such. I don't personally get the fun of it but it's just something that happens to big streamers. Stream sniping has always been a thing and Asmongold in particular has an audience that is very much on-brand doing this exact kind of thing.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You can, but I think it's pretty safe to say that the odds of people being in his chat wanting him NOT to play the game and having Ultimate and savage mounts is pretty slim, but not impossible.

Couldn't tell you. I don't frequent(as in I've never seen one) his streams to understand how his fans act when he joins different games, and I don't hang out on Twitter or other social media sites where people tend to be a lot more... Hive minded....

I just think there's a lot of people (on both sides) being disingenuous in these threads here.

No one in my social circles first MMO was XIV. I played a dozen or so different ones before coming to XIV. We don't care what game people come from. Most XIV players are like this. Not sure where all the wow hate came from. It's always been XI hate here until seemingly recently.

[negiman4]

you're right, I don't have a particularly high opinion of the LGBT movement - or rather, very vocal people in it, having had plenty of bad experiences with those very vocal people who used it to abuse, groom and gaslight other people and avoid responsibility of their behaviour by hiding behind being semi-famous figures in said communities and criticising them meant you'd get banned for homophobia or other things, or just straight up having a pocket mod or mod powers for no reason and thus they could flaunt said power around to silence anyone that disagreed
I also don't like the oversexualisation of pride events in my country, that children are in direct contact with hard kink/fetish content there and that that's perfectly okay - because I think it's not
I'm gay myself, but those things are what keep me from being a vocal supporter of the lgbt movement

there's also the commercialisation of pride stuff/month, which I find downright disgusting, especially because 99% of those companies did nothing for lgbt rights before or actively were against equalisation before - but now they're all totally pro-lgbt and they're totally not after your money - and how so many people eat this capitalistic shit up while they hate on those very same companies (and half the time capitalism) in the 11 other months of the year
maybe hivemind was the wrong word, but you yourself explained it better than I ever could in the beginning of your quote - young people, be it kids or young adults still searching for themselves, are being taught that being overly aggressive to anyone with a differing opinion is how a normal discourse works and that cancelling someone for something they said years, if not decades ago, is also a completely normal and valid thing
that's how you get teens calling an 18 (eighTEEN) year old a pedo and trying to cancel them because they responded to them under their own tweet

post got longer than I wanted it to be, but eh

Saw this earlier and I couldn't agree with you more. It's one thing to be proud of being the "other". It's another thing entirely to participate in degeneracy. I'm bi and I can't stand the LGBT movement. My trans bf and I are just trying to be normal people, which is what the movement was supposed to be all about in the first place, and has since mutated into this awful, exclusive club where members make the rest of us look like total degenerates. The world gave us an inch and we took several miles. This is far beyond "equality" at this point. I understand that this isn't on topic of the thread, but I just wanted to let you know that you're not the only one out there who feels this way.

[RyuDragnier]

FFXIV players can play both FFXIV & WoW.
They can follow Asmon on social media even if they don't play WoW.
They could have heard that Asmon was coming to FFXIV from FFXIV content creators.
Are those not a part of the FFXIV community?

The behavior displayed last night was mostly caused by FFXIV players with max-level characters. Whether you like it or not, these players are a part of the FFXIV community. Bad actions speak louder than good ones.

The entire community cannot go to Cactuar. It's on the Aether Data Center, which nobody but players on Aether have access to. Painting the entire community with a large generalization like that is insulting to the rest of us. If people said, "Wow the Aether DC community is toxic," a lot of us wouldn't be having as much of a problem (because, you know, a lot of us aren't on that DC and can't make a comment on how good/bad it is). But don't paint the EU, JP, and all the other NA players as being this bad when IT'S PEOPLE ON A SINGLE DATA CENTER, AND MAYBE 300 AT THE MOST. I swear I don't know what's wrong with you people and looking for excuses to paint the entire community as bad.

[Yeol]

The entire community cannot go to Cactuar. It's on the Aether Data Center, which nobody but players on Aether have access to. Painting the entire community with a large generalization like that is insulting to the rest of us..

The NA community is still a part of the FFXIV community. People outside FFXIV do not care about NA/EU/JP differences. If they see bad behavior, they are going to generalize it. This is what happens in real life. One bad employee can easily ruin the reputation of their company with bad service. Well, these badly behaved FFXIV players are runining it for the rest of us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The NA community is still a part of the FFXIV community. People outside FFXIV do not care about NA/EU/JP differences. If they see bad behavior, they are going to generalize it. This is what happens in real life. One bad employee can easily ruin the reputation of their company with bad service. Well, these badly behaved FFXIV players are runining it for the rest of us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not much we can do about random anonymous players of the community.