Harassment to Asmongold on his 1st day stream is an Embarassment to FF Community

[Krotoan]

Probably because a huge number of FFXIV zealots scream across the internet about how awesome they are with the ardent fervor of the most extreme religious fundamentalists.

Even though the rest of us know it's no different than any other MMO.

... where is this huge number? Or is it a % of a % like every other MMO just as you said?

[PeekayTom]

Lot of people in here trying to say to "embrace the bad part of the community" or that "the bad part is the entire community" but like, it's best to completely shun the bad parts of the community so that the bad parts aren't there anymore. Like, if someone's transphobic, racist, pedophilic, or anything else like that, I'd hope we'd all agree that they don't belong, right? You don't just "accept that they're there, because there'll always be people like that". You just oust them! Get rid of them! They are not welcome in a welcoming community!

And because there are people who are calling people gatekeepers over this: y'all touch some grass, you can't be tolerant of intolerant beliefs like racism and transphobia.

[ClaudeHerel]

Toxicity? In muh GCBTW? Say it ain't so!!

[Rae88]

Lot of people in here trying to say to "embrace the bad part of the community" or that "the bad part is the entire community" but like, it's best to completely shun the bad parts of the community so that the bad parts aren't there anymore. Like, if someone's transphobic, racist, pedophilic, or anything else like that, I'd hope we'd all agree that they don't belong, right? You don't just "accept that they're there, because there'll always be people like that". You just oust them! Get rid of them! They are not welcome in a welcoming community!

And because there are people who are calling people gatekeepers over this: y'all touch some grass, you can't be tolerant of intolerant beliefs like racism and transphobia.

If someone displays any of the isms in the game make sure to report them definitely. However it is not your place to be the arbiter of who is and isn't acceptable to be a part of the community, and I will report any person who griefs others in their misguided attempts to appoint themselves spokesperson and gatekeeper FOR our community. You are not either of those things.

[Ranaku]

The most funny part about it is tho that this stuff is mostly and always a NA thing. Cause it's litterally your culture to be trolls, memelords, karens and chads. On EU or JP you don't see such stuff going down. But then over here our shout chats in hubs are rarely used instead of being a kuponutshow 24/7. So no, it's not an embarassment for the "community", it's literally that what infested NA since the dawn of time, trolls and memelords. I know it's hardto imagine that there is a place where strangers don't shout their unfiltered thoughts into the public abyss.

And i know that might be a wild theory but there were probably hundreds if not thousands of asmongold fans who started the game with him as new characters, they are also searching for mobs to kill. Needs really much mental gymnastics to think that Asmongold could just kill freely mobs if these terrible terrible XIV vets wouldn't harass him the whole time when there are thousands of new players doing the same, he literally summoned new expansion release day with his presence. It's no wonder he can't get kills.

[Rinhi]

I think the issue that most people have with "toxic positivity" - or whatever it's called now - and the people that propagate it is that the same people who condemn a whole community (WoW) as hyper elitist and toxic from a select few interactions and anecdotal evidence they had (with most likely a single digit amount of people) while handwaving the very same issues others have experienced in XIV as "just a few bad actors" away, and that those are not how the community is
why the hypocrisy? I never played WoW myself and thus never experienced it myself, but I've also had never heard anything overly bad about it, which I actually had about XIV - by people that played both games
just seems like how someone would talk about their ex, honestly

[Jeeqbit]

I don't see how a sprout who isn't even doing the MSQ themselves could block someone who is from doing it to that extent, however I can definitely see high level players one shotting his quest mobs or people who made alts with mogstation mounts stand on his quest objectives.

Having a sprout doesn't mean much (I have it on several characters...) and the ordeal absolutely does reflect on the XIV community.

Having a sprout means a lot because it means they are new characters. The names of those characters proved they are new characters and you could see the names because they were spamming friend invites.

A sprout can block others by reaching the area limit of 300 instead of going about their day doing their own things where their quest is, so that others cannot enter the area. They could very easily not crowd the area waiting because their quests direct them out of the city pretty quick.

There were no mounts to begin with, because he hadn't even left the city, and couldn't even leave the tutorial area.

[PeekayTom]

If someone displays any of the isms in the game make sure to report them definitely. However it is not your place to be the arbiter of who is and isn't acceptable to be a part of the community, and I will report any person who griefs others in their misguided attempts to appoint themselves spokesperson and gatekeeper FOR our community. You are not either of those things.

So... Are you saying that racism is an acceptable part of the community? Cause you're causing a little confusion here. You agree that these things should be reported, but... then also try to say that we can't say that people aren't allowed if they're very clearly perpetrators of these things. Am I understanding right?

[Rae88]

So... Are you saying that racism is an acceptable part of the community? Cause you're causing a little confusion here. You agree that these things should be reported, but... then also try to say that we can't say that people aren't allowed if they're very clearly perpetrators of these things. Am I understanding right?

Provide a link to where Asmongold has ever been racist.

Asmon's chat is a problem, but Asmon himself has very rarely crossed one of the isms.

[Fyrebrand]

You know what, I can't take the guilt anymore. It's time I come clean, and tell you all the truth...

[Tears off mask]

It was me, all along! I am the FFXIV Community! I killed Asmongold, and I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!