The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

[MPK]

Watching him is great it reminds me of the first time I played this game. He doesn't even let the annoying toxic players bother him

[Velnora]

Sadly all it takes is a handful of morons to cause a lot of problems.
The fact that it isn't worse is actually indicative of how good the community is imo, I actually did expect it to be far worse than it is.

Ugh, the coping.

[Kolsykol]

Ugh, the coping.

What exactly about what I said is wrong?
This is just a commonly accepted thing in psychology too, if you get 100 comments and one is negative it's very common for people to focus more on the negative comment.
People in general are more prone to pay attention to negativity because we're conditioned to look for perceived threats.

That's why a handful of morons can make it seems like it's a much bigger problem than it is, I have the same experience in WoW too.
I never said that what they're doing is right I did say that it's wrong in earlier comments.
But if it was an issue with '' the community '' then it'd be far worse, there's not even that many people following him around it's a handful of people at most.

And it's not fair to judge an entire community based on what some randos on a Discord decided to do, the same way that it's not fair to judge and generalize men based on what some asshole men do.

[Velnora]

What exactly about what I said is wrong?
This is just a commonly accepted thing in psychology too, if you get 100 comments and one is negative it's very common for people to focus more on the negative comment.
People in general are more prone to pay attention to negativity because we're conditioned to look for perceived threats.

That's why a handful of morons can make it seems like it's a much bigger problem than it is, I have the same experience in WoW too.
I never said that what they're doing is right I did say that it's wrong in earlier comments.
But if it was an issue with '' the community '' then it'd be far worse, there's not even that many people following him around it's a handful of people at most.

And it's not fair to judge an entire community based on what some randos on a Discord decided to do, the same way that it's not fair to judge and generalize men based on what some asshole men do.

This hasn't been a "handful". Turning this from a negative, and spinning it into some resilience of the "great community", is the epitome of coping.

[Tsumdere]

I mean, he's learning something he hasn't done before. I suspect he'll be chain pulling before too long.

I'm guessing a lot of his reactions are based on WoW dungeons? He seems to be taking even bosses slow.

I am very happy he is going at his speed and the people with him aren't rushing him. It would be way worse if he got a bunch of people clearing the dungeon out by themselves and just having him run along behind.

[Hycinthus]

Watching people one-shot everything is super annoying.
It was expected but ffs let him play the damn game.

Edit: Imo, just for PR and marketing purposes.
I actually think SE should have GM's watching him and porting away people doing that and warning them, it should constitute as harassment.
It just looks terrible and is boring to watch, it reflects negatively on the game and the community.




Most of his viewers don't actually play WoW, I am pretty sure he has talked about this before.
They probably used to but *many* have moved on but still watch his Streams.

I'd know because I am one of them.

Maybe not the worst idea. That's why celebrities have bodyguards right?

It might be bad PR for Square Enix to show many harassments coming from FF playerbase, and GMs not doing anything to stop it.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Zepla has been talking about with the influx of players coming form WoW

So...nothing is going to change and nothing will be different.
This "Bubble" is just a fancy phrase for more players. Which of course is a good thing.

[Ilenya]

So...nothing is going to change and nothing will be different.
This "Bubble" is just a fancy phrase for more players. Which of course is a good thing.

I think in this case the bubble is "A bunch of new people who might end up just leaving" which would be the bubble popping.

[Kolsykol]

This hasn't been a "handful". Turning this from a negative, and spinning it into some resilience of the "great community", is the epitome of coping.

Why does it have to be an either or, I've literally implied and acknowledged that there are bad people in the community.
But in a game where the community at large or to any substantial level is bad it would've been far worse than it was.
Most people weren't even harassing him or doing anything bad.

I know that you learned a new catchy word and want to throw it around every opportunity that you get, that doesn't mean that it's true.
Pointing out the obvious that apparently isn't so obvious to some people ( with alterior motives I'd imagine ) isn't coping.
I have nothing to cope about, nothing that I've said has even so much as implied that it's what I am doing either you can't just throw that at anyone you disagree with that's just intellectually lazy and dishonest.

If anything it'd make more sense in this situation for me to say that you're coping.

Maybe not the worst idea. That's why celebrities have bodyguards right?

It might be bad PR for Square Enix to show many harassments coming from FF playerbase, and GMs not doing anything to stop it.

Yeah in the end of the day Asmongold playing the game is pretty awesome marketing wise, it'd actually make sense for SE to try and make the experience as good as possible.
Dedicating a GM to keep an eye on him and deal with players harassing him wouldn't even be that big of an investement and it'd reflect very well on them and the game.

It's true tho as people have pointed out that he's used to it, I don't think he'll hold this against the game it's the same in WoW for him.

[MoonPhaseAlpha]

Sadly all it takes is a handful of morons to cause a lot of problems.
The fact that it isn't worse is actually indicative of how good the community is imo, I actually did expect it to be far worse than it is.

I was watching him stream during his first Sastasha run today and he said the other members of his party were being nice and helpful so that's good to hear.