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    SaberMaxwell's Avatar
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    You're all arguing with the guy who can't even be bothering spending 10 minutes farming for 60% dps essences for DR. Of course someone who's firmly of the mindset that you don't put in effort unless you're guaranteed it will benefit you and the rest of the group are doing the same is going to rant about endgame practice parties somehow not working.

    Just ignore it. Trusts are obviously not realistic, both in developer resources and the fact Savage is NOT content where you should be able to run with 7 NPC's programmed to do all the mechanics correctly.
    Honestly this.

    That and the fact he consistently ignores that this "inconvenience" is part of the difficulty itself. An mmo is a social enabling tool at its core, so endgame challenging one's ability to navigate social spaces as well as mechanical aptitude is natural imo.

    I know Forte and I basically went from rags to riches (lack of better term) like this, starting with extremes and working up to Ultimate farms.

    It's okay if people think it's dumb, it's okay if not everybody does it. The tools are there, they're evident, and they're usable for anybody who wants to give it a shot.
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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Honestly this.

    That and the fact he consistently ignores that this "inconvenience" is part of the difficulty itself. An mmo is a social enabling tool at its core, so endgame challenging one's ability to navigate social spaces as well as mechanical aptitude is natural imo.

    I know Forte and I basically went from rags to riches (lack of better term) like this, starting with extremes and working up to Ultimate farms.

    It's okay if people think it's dumb, it's okay if not everybody does it. The tools are there, they're evident, and they're usable for anybody who wants to give it a shot.
    There's really no reason NOT to have trusts there as a more convenient option. I think a lot of the people here PREFER that most people don't do this content.

    If it were convenient enough where most players could reasonably learn it then you'd probably all start realizing how easy this content is. Clear %'s would be way up; PuGs would be stomping it easily even before nerfs, and the illusion that this game has ANY difficult content would disappear. I believe you all want this stuff to be gated by inconvenience simply so you can feel special.
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Capybara Friend
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    There's really no reason NOT to have trusts there as a more convenient option. I think a lot of the people here PREFER that most people don't do this content.

    If it were convenient enough where most players could reasonably learn it then you'd probably all start realizing how easy this content is. Clear %'s would be way up; PuGs would be stomping it easily even before nerfs, and the illusion that this game has ANY difficult content would disappear. I believe you all want this stuff to be gated by inconvenience simply so you can feel special.
    Duh, even Ultimate's clear % would soar if it could be solo'd, have you ever done harder content before?
    8 human players, from the beginning to the end, is part of what makes most of the content difficult (and social, in a mmorpg!), and that's the case for a lot of co-op game, it is designed and balanced that way.
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