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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Why? They're literally detached in every localization. I can play with Japanese text and English voices just as easily as both English, both Japanese, or the inverse. There's no reason by which we'd be prevented from adding one without the other.

    It's effectively a difference in font. Give the option to swap it at almost zero effort and suddenly you have many millions more who can read your game.
    your first point is moot because those are already in the game. if you ADD a new text of any kind of language or swap there of you HAVE TO include the voiced part of it. You don't add one without the other. therefore it will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    you HAVE TO include the voiced part of it.
    Link your evidence?
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    the fact that no other additions have been made in the history of the game in regards to additional language support? (for the main version at least). If China and Korea didn't have laws regarding gaming they could have been made to been part of the game.

    I don't have to present a bibliography of quotes to you. I'm honestly quite tired of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    the fact that no other additions have been made in the history of the game in regards to additional language support?
    "It hasn't been made yet, so it cannot be made." Hmm.

    Regardless, you're still begging a false ultimatum. That no main-version voiceovers language outside those provided at launch have been added has absolutely nothing to do with whether the same exact words be written in traditional or simplified script. That holds no more water than our not having gotten a Portuguese dub prevents the use, ever, of bold or italicized text in-game.
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    ok then you transcribe every text then into script translate it and then patch it back into the game because the devs sure aren't going to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    your first point is moot because those are already in the game. if you ADD a new text of any kind of language or swap there of you HAVE TO include the voiced part of it. You don't add one without the other. therefore it will never happen.
    If they have voices in Mandarin chinese from the chinese version of the game, they dont need to change those voices at all. Differences between mainland mandarin and taiwanese mandarin are mostly dialectical but all voice acting in media is done in standard chinese.
    Also swapping simplified to traditional characters and vice versa isnt hard. iOS literally has a button to automatically change a string of text between the two.


    Its entirely plausible for them to make a traditional Chinese client since all they'd really have to change are the strings of text from their already existing simplified chinese one, and most of that can be automated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevra View Post
    First of all I apologize for bringing up this topic under English localization, but apparently this is the only place I can reach out to the developers about this issue.

    I 'm aware that there is already a Chinese version of the game(which is the China server) but that's not what I'm talking about.

    For those who're not aware of this, there's simplified Chinese and traditional Chinese, simplified Chinese are used in China and the traditional Chinese are used in Hong Kong and Taiwan. Their differences are just like the US English and UK English.

    we all know that the China server is separated from the global server due to the county's strict game policy:
    all games in China must have a registration key issued by their government, you must have a China ID and phone number to play the game, play time limit system must be installed to restrict playtime for underage players etc.
    So other than their patch isn't up to date as the global server's, the China server are basically only for people from China only. And as I mentioned before, it's in simplified Chinese.

    There are players that use traditional Chinese from all over the world struggling to understand the game, yet still loves it and willing to play the story in foreign language, then watch a translated version of the story again to understand it. So I really hope the development team will take this into consideration, and hopefully in the near future we get to play the game in a language we know and understand, just like all the players that understand ENG/JP/French and German language.
    Why they can't learn English so they can play all games which are mostly in English. Did they think about other players from another country (where language is not international)? and I don't cry but I will be proud to learn a language if I want to play a game. Think like this. Instead, they're playing a game, first, they could actually learn the language and play the game. There is always the time just is up to people how time is used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotukas View Post
    Why they can't learn English so they can play all games which are mostly in English. Did they think about other players from another country (where language is not international)? and I don't cry but I will be proud to learn a language if I want to play a game. Think like this. Instead, they're playing a game, first, they could actually learn the language and play the game. There is always the time just is up to people how time is used.
    Your insistence that players who want to play the game have time to learn English and should spend that time learning English so that they can play the game is absurd for oh so many reasons.
    • English is not a universal language, no matter how vocal many monolingual speakers of English demand it to be so.
    • One does not simply "just learn English" without a significant time commitment. Many people around the world take daily or weekly English classes for years.
    • Learning English does not guarantee one will be able to play a game, especially one with a period or fantasy setting that uses vocabulary considered unusual or archaic.
    • Even if a second language English speaker does have the vocabulary to play a game, they don't necessarily understand colloquialisms that a native English speaker would understand because such expressions are meaningless or nonsensical when translated word for word back into their native languages.
    • Even if a second language English speaker understands the basic meaning of every word used in a game, they will miss nuance and implication that a first lanugage English speaker would glean from specific word choice without having to think about it.
    • "There is always the time [for people to learn English] just is up to people how time is used." There is always dev time to localize the game into Chinese, Spanish, or any other language. It's just up to them how time and money are used.
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    Automated conversion from Simplified to Traditional is non-trivial and need manual proofing. But compared to, say, Japanese to English, it's much simpler to make something understandable.

    However, if your goal is a complete localization of the game, with the high quality you expect from the English version of FFXIV, then you will need to redo most of it.

    Shout-outs and colloquial usage will need to be replaced with local equivalents. There are many terminology differences between China and HK/Taiwan, for example computer memory is 内存 in China and 記憶體 in Taiwan.

    And you will need to replace all voice acting as well. Even a common word like "and" (和) is pronounced hé in China and hàn in Taiwan.

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    As an aside, I would love to play in Chinese on the NA server, though matchmaking might be an issue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotukas View Post
    Why they can't learn English so they can play all games which are mostly in English. Did they think about other players from another country (where language is not international)? and I don't cry but I will be proud to learn a language if I want to play a game. Think like this. Instead, they're playing a game, first, they could actually learn the language and play the game. There is always the time just is up to people how time is used.
    I'm not sure if you're just being wilfully ignorant or worse. As a non-native English speaker let me tell you it takes a lot of time to become fluent in a language to be able to follow a complex story without having to pause every 5 seconds to look up a word. That's pretty much how it went for me like 15 years ago. lol And I am only as fluent as I am now because I lived in England long enough. And you're expecting people to learn a language "just" to be able to play a video game? Are you serious? lol
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