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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralia View Post
    Agreed, I understood it that way too. Actually I view it as a possible future, but the last cutscene they gave, still showing Gabranth around Dalmasca, I hope that we'll go there again soon, maybe starting at 6.1+ as some said or for another eureka/relic-like content (though it would be repetitive to have 2 relic contents in the same region)
    However, there's something that bothered me, if someone can explain...
    In Lyon's note it's said that he's 68 year old, but in the same time he was not even 20 year old when he got command over a legion when Bozja was invaded but the Bozja citadel accident happened barely 10 years prior to the 7th Calamity so let's say about 15 years prior to present events (at most 20 years if we take 1 expansion = 1 year),
    So how can he possibly be this aged in 20 years max only... either the field notes describe some futures for some characters and in that case the age mentioned is for the future mentioned or the age mentioned is at present regardless what is said in the said note...
    Bozja was invaded, "over 30 years ago." Not sure how long it took Garlemald to subjugate completely, but that's, "over 30 years" prior to the events of 1.0, as I understand things. So that's a minimum of, "over 35 years" and, "well before his twentieth nameday" could mean as late as the year he turned 20. That'd bring him up to 55, going as a baseline by the start of 2.0. 13 years missing somewhere...

    Of course, it could also be talking about, "well before his twentieth nameday" in so far as, 20 years of service required to gain Garlean citizenship, leaving just exactly how long he's been in imperial service not exact.
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  2. #92
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    Ah yes, you're right ! Didn't have pay attention enough to this, I... had understood that Bozja was invaded at most a few years ago before the citadel explodes... well, even if some years are missing surely there's an explanation or that's not so wrong for him to be 68 already indeed, thanks !
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  3. #93
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    To further back up the claims of 30 years, Sartauvoir's Field Notes state that he's been with the IVth Legion for almost 30 years and was recruited by Basch after the invasion of Bozja in order to build up a mage cadre capable of taking on Dalmasca. Although hilariously, the timeline on Page 51 of Encyclopedia Eorzea Vol. I states that Dalmasca was conquered in 1517 which is a whopping 60 years ago. Gotta admit, the thought of an eight year old Lyon running into battle with a beard and an Ifrit Axe is amazing.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I wonder if they will continue with the Ivalice stuff?


    If this is to be believed then Matsuno might no longer be working with FFXIV team any more and it might explain why we got those Field Records by the end.

    That said, it could still be continued up by a different writer in the team maybe?
    He’s come out with a few more posts since then. Basically saying Dalmasca was already liberated and he left fragments in the field notes to give us the ending of the story. This is so sad honestly. It’s sad that the shitty nier story took up resources on what could’ve been put towards this story. This was one of the few side stories i was extremely engaged in, and i was excited to finally meet and have a fight against Gabranth after they’ve hyped him for two expansions now and then this happens. Another piece of cut content to add to the long list of this expansion i suppose...jesus
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  5. #95
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    Frankly disappointing that Matsuno is no longer working with the XIV team, I've really enjoyed the ongoing IV legion storyline. Also I'm Bozja was planned to have 3 regions cos compared to Eureka it felt relatively unfinished
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by waifugenerator View Post
    Frankly disappointing that Matsuno is no longer working with the XIV team, I've really enjoyed the ongoing IV legion storyline. Also I'm Bozja was planned to have 3 regions cos compared to Eureka it felt relatively unfinished
    I'm fairly certain that Delebrum was supposed to be connected to the 2nd region, and it felt like Castrum was supposed to have a solo instance or something considering there's a path down into the sewers you can see that we never take.
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  7. #97
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    Yeah, it's disappointing to me as well - and it doesn't fill me with confidence that 6.0 will wrap up the existing plot threads in a satisfying manner. I thought that the writing in the Save the Queen storyline was some of the strongest in the game to date, with plenty of nuance and a very likable cast of characters on both sides of the conflict. I would've liked to see Matsuno do further work on FFXIV, even if it were limited to side content.

    We'll see what 6.1+ brings, I suppose. Hopefully it has some depth and reasonably high stakes to it. Though if it doesn't, at least there's a few upcoming MMO's on the horizon that appeal to me in the form of Blue Protocol, Ashes of Creation and Pantheon. I'm hoping at least one of them does very well for itself and moves forward taking itself seriously where its story is concerned. Both for the sake of providing FFXIV with some healthy competition and also for the sake of providing people with an option that isn't WoW or FFXIV.

    I'm willing to give the development team a chance to see what they have in store, though if the story is going to build things up only to discard them abruptly - as has been the case for a while now - then all I'll say on the matter is that it's the same approach that led me to giving up on WoW after years of investment. If need be, I'll do the same with FFXIV.

    I've had a lot of people messaging me in-game expressing similar concerns, though for now my best advice has been to wait and see how 6.0 chooses to conduct itself. Which means we have to play the waiting game until late November, unfortunately!
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm fairly certain that Delebrum was supposed to be connected to the 2nd region, and it felt like Castrum was supposed to have a solo instance or something considering there's a path down into the sewers you can see that we never take.
    I was going to say this as well. Castrum itself just feels so insignificant and out of place imo as the main instance of the zone. I felt like castrum was supposed to be a solo instance and Delubrum perhaps the actual instance of zone 1. With zadnor being zone 2 and then Gabranth zone 3. They wasted story elements on castrum imo, because they could’ve merged both the DR plot and castrum plot into one as opposed to spreading them out. I guess that’s a consequence of rushed writing though. Honestly this isn’t giving me good hope for Endwalkers, considering the time for that too was cut short. From what was supposed to be 7.0 is now 6.0 and they aren’t using the post patches to continue the story for that. It’s all just going to end in 6.0 and with all of the plot threads i feel like we’re going to have another bozja situation where 90% of it is resolved off screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    We'll see what 6.1+ brings, I suppose. Hopefully it has some depth and reasonably high stakes to it. Though if it doesn't, at least there's a few upcoming MMO's on the horizon that appeal to me in the form of Blue Protocol, Ashes of Creation and Pantheon. I'm hoping at least one of them does very well for itself and moves forward taking itself seriously where its story is concerned. Both for the sake of providing FFXIV with some healthy competition and also for the sake of providing people with an option that isn't WoW or FFXIV.
    Hate to tell you, but Yoshi-P confirmed that 6.0 is the last time we'll have a world ending stake in things. After this, it'll likely be us exploring new parts of the world and dealing with lesser world changing events, such as wars, sealed magicks, and well-intentioned extremists who feel the only way to change things in a place is to burn it all to the ground.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Hate to tell you, but Yoshi-P confirmed that 6.0 is the last time we'll have a world ending stake in things. After this, it'll likely be us exploring new parts of the world and dealing with lesser world changing events, such as wars, sealed magicks, and well-intentioned extremists who feel the only way to change things in a place is to burn it all to the ground.
    He didn’t necessarily confirm that. The only thing he said regarding that is future stories will be more enclosed and less stemming from previous arcs. They’ll be their own self contained stories. Morning about this being the last world ending stake in things. Or lesser world changing events. Dunno where you even got that last point from lmao.
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