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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I was under the impression that it was Arenvald who told us about mixed breeds not having the eye because of the whole "scar from his mom" thing.

    As far as Severa goes, she's the only one with a black third eye that I'm aware of but she hasn't talked about it so it's anyone's guess what it means or if it doesn't work.
    So then we haven't exactly heard from a native Garlean, so it COULD be possible that mixed blood Garleans could have a 3rd Eye. And maybe Severa's helps her with manipulating aether better on top of spatial recognition? Black does tend to contain all colors in a light spectrum, so it helping with magic would make perfect sense, and also be a showing of why the Garlean's 3rd Eye is normally white, they are devoid of it (white is devoid of color) and thus can't manipulate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tensaihime View Post
    During the pre-Garuda cutscene, Cid does say that only pureblood Garleans have a third eye.
    Oh, so either they've retconned that, or Severa is one of a kind.
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    If I remember correctly, we are given snippets of information that some of the "greater" nations from back in the day had other races among them besides the primary one. This goes for Allag as well. The primary race were Hyurs, but I think Elezen and Miqo'te made up part of the empire as well. How they were treated is a different story.

    As for Severa, I wouldn't say she's a retcon per se. More like she's another subtle piece of information given to us. Genetics are wierd, and how they choose to show up is wierd as well. For all we know Severa could be 3/4th Garlean, maybe her mother was already a half-breed. But I think she's more a clue as to how "little" the other races know about breeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    If I remember correctly, we are given snippets of information that some of the "greater" nations from back in the day had other races among them besides the primary one. This goes for Allag as well. The primary race were Hyurs, but I think Elezen and Miqo'te made up part of the empire as well. How they were treated is a different story.

    As for Severa, I wouldn't say she's a retcon per se. More like she's another subtle piece of information given to us. Genetics are wierd, and how they choose to show up is wierd as well. For all we know Severa could be 3/4th Garlean, maybe her mother was already a half-breed. But I think she's more a clue as to how "little" the other races know about breeding.
    I'm sure elezen made up part of the Empire considering how present they are in Eorzea and Ilsabard, but so far every Allagan we've seen is hyur and there's been no mention of the elezen yet so I didn't mention them. Miqo'te themselves were kicked out of Eorzea early on during the Empire's growth, but got swallowed up by them in the end anyway when they expanded into Ilsabard. G'raha's ancestor was a conscript from the edges of Ilsabard.

    In the end I'm sure we'll learn more about the Allagans in EW and what connections they may have with the Garleans, if any at all. We're going straight to the heart of Garlemald and while it's been exploded, I'm sure we'll learn at least tidbits of who the Garleans are and where they came from and what things mean regarding them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I'm sure elezen made up part of the Empire considering how present they are in Eorzea and Ilsabard, but so far every Allagan we've seen is hyur and there's been no mention of the elezen yet so I didn't mention them. Miqo'te themselves were kicked out of Eorzea early on during the Empire's growth, but got swallowed up by them in the end anyway when they expanded into Ilsabard. G'raha's ancestor was a conscript from the edges of Ilsabard.
    I believe Amon is supposed to be an Elezen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I believe Amon is supposed to be an Elezen.
    Oh shit you're right. I've never noticed he's got elf ears underneath all of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I'm sure elezen made up part of the Empire considering how present they are in Eorzea and Ilsabard, but so far every Allagan we've seen is hyur and there's been no mention of the elezen yet so I didn't mention them. Miqo'te themselves were kicked out of Eorzea early on during the Empire's growth, but got swallowed up by them in the end anyway when they expanded into Ilsabard. G'raha's ancestor was a conscript from the edges of Ilsabard.

    In the end I'm sure we'll learn more about the Allagans in EW and what connections they may have with the Garleans, if any at all. We're going straight to the heart of Garlemald and while it's been exploded, I'm sure we'll learn at least tidbits of who the Garleans are and where they came from and what things mean regarding them.
    I wonder if their origin might be connected and explored more with that Laputa like zone shown in the fanfest, as shown on the map of the three continents it is around Garlemald and it could be Allagan in Origin similar to Az Yzla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Oh shit you're right. I've never noticed he's got elf ears underneath all of that.
    There's also that sidequest node in Azys Llla that mentions the player's race, and implies that every race currently playable was known to and part of the Allagan Empire at one point.

    We've got no info on overall founding race though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    We've got no info on overall founding race though.
    Considering the founding emperor Xande and his descendants are hyur, it’s probably hyur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Considering the founding emperor Xande and his descendants are hyur, it’s probably hyur.
    I actually have a headcanon that if Xande (and Allagans in general) were Hyur, it was only Hyur base, and by the time of Xande's resurrection and invasion of Meracydia, they had altered themselves as a trivial operation to be whatever they wanted. (Hence why Xande and Amon were huge.) Kind of like "I'm feeling Elezen ears and Miqo'te tail today, let's hop into the household aetherochemical contraption for a minute, okay done".

    (On a completely unrelated aside, I'm feeling a little fidgety over your character icon on the forums at this time, because that red flower on your sunhat keeps reminding me of that red Discord Notification.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Unfortunately it’s a nature of the game having multiple writers and being over a decade old that the game’s lore even sometimes contradicts itself now. I wouldn’t trust a lot of RP sites because that’s where a lot of really weird misinformation is created and spreads like wildfire. There’s this one Tumblr blog I really like because the person behind it has categorized everything really nicely and they took the time to source everything and it’s the exact text from the game or from an interview without a filter over it.

    In regards to the Garlean third eye, it’s supposed to be an organ that greatly increases their spacial recognition making them better at flying airships and shooting guns. It’s also supposed to be hard like keratin. Only pureblood Garleans are supposed to have it, and 3 half-Garlean NPCs are definitely missing it, but a half-Garlean in the Werlyt quest line randomly has one so I guess that’s thrown out the window now.
    could you direct us to the Tumblr blog? Would love to see that!
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