Why is the healer class basically a one spell dps class?

[KizuyaKatogami]

All i can say on the topic is this. I hope to god 6.0 introduces some form of a mini dps rotation to the healers. Will it happen? Most likely not. This playerbase can barely handle healing in endgame content (lvl 80 dungeons). Having to dps as well would ultimately shut down their brain cells.

[Anhra]

This playerbase can barely handle healing in endgame content (lvl 80 dungeons). Having to dps as well would ultimately shut down their brain cells.

Sometimes, true Progress demands sacrifices to be made, in one form or another. And i hope that "mini dps rotation" means more than just 1-2 additional dps spells for lvl80+.

Healers deserve to have at least 5-6 more dps abilities from the way i see it (and with that, i mean actual skills, not just the same basic spell that just does raw dmg on single target/splash range, let us have placeable AoEs or something that channels for a few seconds).

[KizuyaKatogami]

Sometimes, true Progress demands sacrifices to be made, in one form or another. And i hope that "mini dps rotation" means more than just 1-2 additional dps spells for lvl80+.

Healers deserve to have at least 5-6 more dps abilities from the way i see it (and with that, i mean actual skills, not just the same basic spell that just does raw dmg on single target/splash range, let us have placeable AoEs or something that channels for a few seconds).

I mean, i wholeheartedly agree, but unfortunately the playerbase i mention is also the one that is the loudest on the likes of twitter and reddit which are two places SE looks at for feedback. My problem with this whole thing is how they haven’t even addressed it at all. Yoshi P said awhile back they tune raids to where they don’t require healer dps, but that’s literally not the case. If healers didn’t dps week 1 savage raid clears wouldn’t be a thing. There are so many other mmo’s that have unique forms of healing and healer dps and this game it’s just, regens,shields, oh wow they can do both now, here’s a random ground target aoe. Like, please let Sage break the mould and actually have unique forms of healing or dpsing cuz otherwise it’s just going to be another expansion of boring ass healers with nothing changing. They supposedly spent the most amount of time on healers they ever had in ShB, and look how release went. Sch got energy drain taken away, Ast was a mess. So if that was them spending a lot of time on them...i have low hopes for 6.0. Especially with a new healer taking time away from the others.

[Dearche]

All i can say on the topic is this. I hope to god 6.0 introduces some form of a mini dps rotation to the healers. Will it happen? Most likely not. This playerbase can barely handle healing in endgame content (lvl 80 dungeons). Having to dps as well would ultimately shut down their brain cells.

Except we did have that, at least for SCH back as late as SB, and while there were a few wipes here and there, frankly speaking, I don't see what's so bad about wiping in a dungeon on the occasion.

It's a learning moment. It's definitely better than healers dropping their chosen role because they got bored with it because there's no complexity to DPSing. If dungeons don't give healers anything interesting to heal, then healers need something to make DPSing interesting instead.

You know what I do in every pull in dungeons as it stands? Excog, Sacred Soil, and an adlo prepull. If I find out that the tank's crap or they're taking a particularly hard pull, then maybe a whispering dawn or another adlo mid pull. The rest of my button pressing is just ground slapping until everything's dead.

Can't say it's very interesting to be healer when that's all I do every pull, every time.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Except we did have that, at least for SCH back as late as SB, and while there were a few wipes here and there, frankly speaking, I don't see what's so bad about wiping in a dungeon on the occasion.

It's a learning moment. It's definitely better than healers dropping their chosen role because they got bored with it because there's no complexity to DPSing. If dungeons don't give healers anything interesting to heal, then healers need something to make DPSing interesting instead.

You know what I do in every pull in dungeons as it stands? Excog, Sacred Soil, and an adlo prepull. If I find out that the tank's crap or they're taking a particularly hard pull, then maybe a whispering dawn or another adlo mid pull. The rest of my button pressing is just ground slapping until everything's dead.

Can't say it's very interesting to be healer when that's all I do every pull, every time.

I mean again, i agree with all of these points. I wasn’t saying they shouldn’t do it. I’m just saying what’s more likely as they seem to try and cater to the part of the playerbase that’s very lazy and only wants to do the minimum in content. Sch in SB i wouldn’t say had so much of a rotation. It definitely had more dps tools yeah but they felt kind of disjointed. I’d like something fluid that actually feels nice.

[Lauront]

I'd like to see a proper rotation for healers. Doesn't have to be as complex or demanding as a dps rotation, but something beyond 1 nuke 1 dot 1 CD.

[Imora]

I just set up my bars for AST and can't see myself doing ANY DPS if they add more DPS buttons to the mix. I just simply don't have room for them.

[GrimGale]

I just set up my bars for AST and can't see myself doing ANY DPS if they add more DPS buttons to the mix. I just simply don't have room for them.

AST doesn't suffer from Healer downtime as much as WHM and SCH. They get their own minigame in-between damage and healing. The other two though definitely need something to fill their downtime beyond one-button spam.

[Imora]

AST doesn't suffer from Healer downtime as much as WHM and SCH. They get their own minigame in-between damage and healing. The other two though definitely need something to fill their downtime beyond one-button spam.

I don't have anything set up for WHM since I don't have it unlocked yet, so I can't say anything about that.

But while I understand one button spam is boring, I'd rather see them make GCD heals needed more often than add more buttons.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I just set up my bars for AST and can't see myself doing ANY DPS if they add more DPS buttons to the mix. I just simply don't have room for them.

Honestly idk how this can be possible. I play on controller which has even less space than kb+m(which i’m assuming you’re using) and i’ve never run into a problem of running out of space for skills.