Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
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I don't mean to be that one guy; once again. But the reason people aren't listening to you is that you aren't really creating a good argument in the first place, and are just looking for an excuse in order to rationalize doing the absolute bare minimum to get by without having regard for yours, and most importantly other peoples' time. What I find really strange is the time that you've spent here arguing bad takes is time that you could have spent farming for essences.

You talk about not being good from the perspective of a farmer, but if we look at the average run in duty finder, this is approximately 45 minutes, and that is taking into account with some people actually using essences. Comparative to everyone using a modicum of offensive essences in addition to some support essences crunches that 45 minutes into an approximate run of 15 minutes. This means that you on average will save you approximately 1 minute and 20~ seconds per player on the essence, and again, these are average scenarios. The only reason these values aren't even a bigger disparity is that you actually have some individuals in a run that actually respect their own time and the time of other people in the instance.

Across the course of a whole relic, this turns out to be 30 minutes per run or 30*7.5 per relic. This means per relic the collective group will save approximately 200 minutes per relic, or 3 hours and 20 minutes. Across the course of all 17 relics, this turns out to be around 63 hours saved by respecting your own time and the time of other people. You are simply wrong on these bases.

If everyone were to go by your misapprehension then we'd be looking at a consistent minimum time of around 50-55 minutes. If this were the case, then even taking into account the buff, it'd be quicker for people to just do premade Palace of the Dead.

If you don't want to use essences for whatever reason then by all means go ahead, but don't try and justify it on the premise that you're playing efficiently when you clearly are doing anything but that. You just don't respect other peoples' time, simple as that.