About damage essences in Delubrum/Dalriada

[Avidria]

I can count the number of times I've actually sat down specifically to farm essences on one hand. Idk if I just spend far more time in Bozja than I've realized or what, but I'm swimming in most of the essences and actions I care about just from passively doing the content. Heck, some of the cheap essences have 100% droprate fragments you can farm, though I'm guessing that's probably not all of them.

I mean if you don't wanna sit and farm that's your prerogative, and if you aren't spending much time in the content anyway it probably doesn't matter much. But if you've got them, there's no reason at all not to use them, and the more people DON'T use them, the longer every single run is. The difference in speed between a group with people even half trying to use 'correct' essences and a group where most people aren't is... not small.

I mean I'm lazy af when I go into Bozja now... I never take off Seraph strike, I'm drowning in aetherweavers and profanes, and the only finite resource I need to worry about at this point is chaincasts. I do stupid amounts of damage with close to zero effort and it's fantastic.

[Goji1639]

I can count the number of times I've actually sat down specifically to farm essences on one hand.

I can count the number of times I'd be willing to do it on zero hands.

I think the disconnect here is between people running Bozja for Bozja, and people running Bozja for the relic.

If you've spent a lot of time in Bozja just doing stuff I'm sure you've gotten a ton of essences naturally, and just assume everyone else has done the same. That's not the case, though. If you're only doing what you need for the relic you'll most likely end up at steps like DR with barely any essences to use. If you're noticing that most people in DRN aren't using essences, it's because most people doing Bozja in general ONLY want their relic.

Bozja is only still alive because it force funnels relic hunters through it. All of you who are actually enjoying Bozja might want to just take that as a win, instead of pissing about how most of the people in Bozja don't want to farm essences.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I can count the number of times I'd be willing to do it on zero hands.

I think the disconnect here is between people running Bozja for Bozja, and people running Bozja for the relic.

If you've spent a lot of time in Bozja just doing stuff I'm sure you've gotten a ton of essences naturally, and just assume everyone else has done the same. That's not the case, though. If you're only doing what you need for the relic you'll most likely end up at steps like DR with barely any essences to use. If you're noticing that most people in DRN aren't using essences, it's because most people doing Bozja in general ONLY want their relic.

Bozja is only still alive because it force funnels relic hunters through it. All of you who are enjoying Bozja might want to just take that as a win, instead of pissing about how most of the people in Bozja don't want to farm essences.

Here's the thing, it'll go faster if you have essences. That means less net time in bozja for you. If no one used essences, you'd be looking at an hour and a half each run.

[Goji1639]

Here's the thing, it'll go faster if you have essences. That means less net time in bozja for you. If no one used essences, you'd be looking at an hour and a half each run.

I've already had this discussion what feels like 100 times, but no it won't. Me specifically using an essence might take 1 minute off of a DRN run at best. Farming essences takes considerably more time than that; and, before you suggest it, I'm not spending gil on MB lootboxes for a chance at them either.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use any essences you've lucked into while doing relic stuff, but once you run out there's ABSOLUTELY NO reason to ever farm them.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I've already had this discussion what feels like 100 times, but no it won't. Me specifically using an essence might take 1 minute off of a DRN run at best. Farming essences takes considerably more time than that; and, before you suggest it, I'm not spending gil on MB lootboxes for a chance at them either.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use any essences you've lucked into while doing relic stuff, but once you run out there's ABSOLUTELY NO reason to ever farm them.

I disagree. You can get 5 or 6 skirmishes essences from the mobs just outside the 2nd camp in SF in less than 10 minutes. That all adds up.

But you do you.

[Goji1639]

I disagree. You can get 5 or 6 skirmishes essences from the mobs just outside the 2nd camp in SF in less than 10 minutes. That all adds up.

But you do you.

AFTER you've put together a group to farm clusters and IF you get very lucky with fragment RNG then sure, it's likely possible. Once all of that's happened you can pop a skirmisher essence for your 5 DR runs, at best saving yourself maybe 5 minutes in DR. Even in a best case scenario farming, no matter how you look at it, farming essences doesn't save you time.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

AFTER you've put together a group to farm clusters and IF you get very lucky with fragment RNG then sure, it's likely possible. Once all of that's happened you can pop a skirmisher essence for your 5 DR runs, at best saving yourself maybe 5 minutes in DR. Even in a best case scenario farming, no matter how you look at it, farming essences doesn't save you time.

Uhh, no, solo farm mobs. Not for clusters, just the fragments. They drop frequently off them. Just kill the doblyns.

[Avidria]

I can count the number of times I'd be willing to do it on zero hands.

I think the disconnect here is between people running Bozja for Bozja, and people running Bozja for the relic.

If you've spent a lot of time in Bozja just doing stuff I'm sure you've gotten a ton of essences naturally, and just assume everyone else has done the same. That's not the case, though. If you're only doing what you need for the relic you'll most likely end up at steps like DR with barely any essences to use. If you're noticing that most people in DRN aren't using essences, it's because most people doing Bozja in general ONLY want their relic.

Bozja is only still alive because it force funnels relic hunters through it. All of you who are actually enjoying Bozja might want to just take that as a win, instead of pissing about how most of the people in Bozja don't want to farm essences.

Honestly I think the disconnect is really questionable design decisions. Because I agree actually, if you don't do Bozja for Bozja you're just not gonna have essences and not have much reason to farm them because you're probably never gonna touch the raids again once you have the shiny weapon.

The issue being, the number of people only there for the weapon is prooobably higher than the number doing it for the other stuff or even just for fun, compounded by the fact that the difference the essences make is not even a little bit small. I can turn my white mage into a very good dps that can ALSO still heal very well, for very little cost and very little effort on my part. It's hilarious and awesome and part of why I enjoy Bozja so much. But if there are only like, 5 people in say, a Delubrum who are using decent essences and actions, it takes WAY longer. Like. 15-20 minutes longer. And it's very noticeable purely from how many mechanics the bosses get to do.

Don't get me wrong, I don't actually care that much. I don't call people out (unless you're a tank trying to main tank with irregular up and NOT using any CDs at all because good god please do not do that) but like... personally I'd rather spend 10 minutes, get a handful of crappy essences, and toss them on even for a bit of a boost than go in with nothing and do like. A fraction of the damage you can do if you actually get the nice stuff going. The more people do, the faster every run goes for everyone, the sooner people can stop doing the content they don't wanna do.