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    That's how raiding is. It's invalidated by the next tier so either that can motivate you to do the next ones, or just be happy you took up the challenge while it was current and were part of the experience. In 4 years you can look back and say "when I did this" because the memories and experience don't go away.
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    I would very much welcome more exclusive items.
    It keeps the game feeling alive.

    But sadly, this seems to not be a popular opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snickerzbar View Post
    I understand where you're coming from, and yes the game did hype "exclusivity"
    Hyped where and in what words, regarding which items?
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  4. #14
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snickerzbar View Post
    @linayar
    It's not about the items getting "easier" it's about having the items themselves that "prove" you went through the hardships to back up your story!
    Not necessarily.
    When I see someone with a limited time PVP set of gear I don't think "wow they went through so much to get that." I think "they were active from [date] to [date]."

    Also, items don't prove you went through hardships.
    I soloqued through Savage this expac and outside of E5S I would say any of it was all that difficult.
    My point is all the item says is "I ran that content" and don't actually give hunts or insight to your story or supposed struggles.



    Quote Originally Posted by Snickerzbar View Post
    @linayar
    ppl in this game are so apposed to the difficulty because this game is all about the "story" that they forget there are actual challenges.
    Harder content is fine, but I don't believe this would be a good model for supporting it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Snickerzbar View Post
    You can simply just wait till the end and invalidate everyone else's hard work
    Someone else using a Nightmare Pegasus that they bought doesn't invalidate the fun I had getting it.
    These items have a function beyond vain status flags, and you seem very keen to try and reduce them to that.

    And either way, considering people can BUY ultimate clears and PotD solo clears there really can't be an effective status symbol in FF14.
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  5. #15
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    Sure, in general, I love a small amount of exclusivity when I am playing a game and only that game actively! However, I also HATE exclusivity, because then it feels like I am being compelled to play the game non-stop, or otherwise buy what is 'exclusive', if that option is available. It's designed to prey on people's fear of missing out, but yes, it also makes certain players feel good about obtaining 'exclusive' items, so there will always be players who like this sort of system.

    For example, 'season passes' are looking to be the new fad for microtransactions in gaming nowadays. I quite dislike them. On the surface they aren't necessarily predatory, since largely players can earn what they want via gameplay. However, since much of the items are exclusive to said season, as I said earlier, players are compelled to either grind for large periods of time, each and every season, or BUY their way through it. It is actually a quite predatory practice, in my opinion, and feeds on player's 'fear of missing out'. With the amount of games nowadays including this sort of system there is literally no way to keep up, if you like playing more than one game at a time - unless you purchase your way through these.

    So, in that case, I have to agree with this here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think people should seek to obtain something in a video game because they desire it rather than because they think it is 'exclusive'. That way when it inevitably becomes easier to obtain they won't be bothered because other people get to enjoy whatever it is as well.

    The only form of exclusivity I really support in a video game is the sort with a compromise in the form of time gating. So there's maybe a period where people get to enjoy it 'exclusively' and then later on it's made available to everybody who desires it. Sometimes that still requires effort, sometimes it's a freebie. Though it generally works out in my opinion when such an approach is taken.
    Allow players who come to the game later to eventually be able to partake in an event, or obtain said 'exclusive' items at some point in the future. An example in this game is that recent FF car event coming back.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-23-2021 at 01:46 PM.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I would very much welcome more exclusive items.
    It keeps the game feeling alive.

    But sadly, this seems to not be a popular opinion.
    I'm fine with some, but not a lot. Like Saint of the Firmament, pvp mounts, etc are fine. Not too many though.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I would very much welcome more exclusive items.
    It keeps the game feeling alive.

    But sadly, this seems to not be a popular opinion.
    I've wanted something like WoW's Mage Tower challenge to pop up. In fact I wanted WoW to have another Mage Tower challenge.

    Can we get a good solo challenge that rewards exclusive goodies for us to work through?
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snickerzbar View Post
    but if it doesn't matter then why bother at all? because once how "easy" the relic quest is introduced then it doesn't matter if you raid or don't.. You can simply just wait till the end and invalidate everyone else's hard work, and get your best weapon..
    How does it "invalidate" your hard work?

    Because they eventually got it?
    you had it first though. You have the achievement to prove it. You got to use it for far longer.
    If "exclusivity" is such a thing for you, then you should have noticed that every single other relic weapon has been made FAR easier to get later. This is FFXIV and the formula has not changed in years. The how might have, but the progression of "difficult to attain to easier to attain to trivial" has always been there.

    This isn't a surprise to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snickerzbar View Post
    If you've struggled for months on E12S and finally got that clear and the achieve. It wouldn't matter 6months later when another group worse than you got it simply by waiting and getting the casual buffs.
    I thought people raided because they liked the challenge and were there for the experience.
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  10. #20
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    The only potential downfall of the game would be SE making moves against casual players.

    Exclusivity is never good for casual players, SE knows this and is usually very careful with exclusives.
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