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  1. #31
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    iVolke's Avatar
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    Volke Volke
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Probably, but MSQ roulette is a great way to level alts while watching TV, chatting or getting some other work done.
    There are numerous efficient ways to level, this one is the least fun. It would give new players a better experience (they can still get lost/left behind while bosses get merked) and would give more impact to the game's first finale.

    FF14 players be like, "this gameplay is lit af!"

    The gameplay: "FOR WHOM, DO YOU FIGHT?" *faint sound of dishes being washed in the background*
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  2. #32
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    There are numerous efficient ways to level, this one is the least fun. It would give new players a better experience (they can still get lost/left behind while bosses get merked) and would give more impact to the game's first finale.

    FF14 players be like, "this gameplay is lit af!"

    The gameplay: "FOR WHOM, DO YOU FIGHT?" *faint sound of dishes being washed in the background*
    Alternative: the gameplay is lit af!
    Levelling roulette: shoving high levels into Sastasha.
    Alliance raids roulette: shoving high levels into CT.
    Alternatives: mindlessly grind potd without even reading your skills cause stuff dies too fast anyway.

    Yeah honestly...unless you are going through MSQ first time, or levelling through at-level dungeons (requires being tank or healer or having a group), or use squadrons (but can only do that up to 60) the levelling experience rarely is exciting, challenging, or any more pertinent gameplay than a Prae run.
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  3. #33
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    NolChannel's Avatar
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    Tura Uralaq
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    MSQ is already lame enough for new players since people have literally 2.8 times the needed stats to clear.

    Set the max iLvl to MSQ to 55 or 50.
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  4. #34
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    There are numerous efficient ways to level, this one is the least fun. It would give new players a better experience (they can still get lost/left behind while bosses get merked) and would give more impact to the game's first finale.

    FF14 players be like, "this gameplay is lit af!"

    The gameplay: "FOR WHOM, DO YOU FIGHT?" *faint sound of dishes being washed in the background*
    MSQ roulette is the most efficient leveling activity we've got, Praetorium especially. Not having it would make leveling take longer.

    Also, for whatever it's worth, Praetorium is probably the only time in ANY MMO where I've actually conversed with random players during a matchmaking dungeon. Praetorium is basically a 40 minute hang and relax that hands you a ton of EXP and poetics. I don't see the problem. Slower, less rewarding leveling options that require your undivided attention are still there for people who want them.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 06-23-2021 at 04:56 AM.

  5. #35
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    Puremallace's Avatar
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    Pure Mallace
    World
    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    The obvious solution is to make this a solo player instance but that would require a redesign.
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  6. #36
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_satron View Post
    Can't they just let the game detect new player that this is their first time doing this dungeons? if there's no first timer, everyone can skip all the cutscene.

    Well there's a chance that a lot of people prefer make Party Finder that only players that have complete the dungoens can join rather than queueing in Duty finder. Meaning first timer will have long queue time for this dungeons. The solution for that is more bonus rewards if they met new players

    If there's at least 1 new player, everyone can't skip the cutscene, but non new player will receive bonus like 70% more exp and other bonus rewards (more gil and poetics) from DR MSQ
    Nope, then parties would just kick the new players so they could get their tomestones faster.

    If you don't want to spend the time, don't queue for MSQ roulette. Do other things to get your XP and tomestomes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Bad suggestion, people doing ARR msq would never get in.
    SE might be remaking Castrum and Praetorium. It's something they've considered but haven't decided (at least as of the last time it was mentioned).

    If they do, bye-bye MSQ roulette. All the people who were complaining they have to watch the cutscenes will have to find other ways to get their XP and tomestones.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 06-23-2021 at 05:41 AM.

  7. #37
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    Ayuhra's Avatar
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
    World
    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    My favorite Praetorium runs consist of all old players just MST3King the whole time.
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  8. #38
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Remove MSQ roulette dungeons.
    This, make the dungeons solo instances.
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  9. #39
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    SE might be remaking Castrum and Praetorium. It's something they've considered but haven't decided (at least as of the last time it was mentioned).

    If they do, bye-bye MSQ roulette. All the people who were complaining they have to watch the cutscenes will have to find other ways to get their XP and tomestones.
    That would be a good QoL but i agree people would complain they can't semi passively get millions of exp and tomes with barely lifting a finger.
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  10. #40
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    My favorite Praetorium runs consist of all old players just MST3King the whole time.
    These are the BEST

    I love people who find new ways to insert dialogue into the Gaius fight. Like there's the one asking Gaius what a pirate says (I do that one and the group busts a gut laughing) but I've seen some other creative ones, too.
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