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    Izar_Chillen's Avatar
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    Jhuno Whatt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    it'd be better than just sitting on 3 lilies not doing anything whilst you're mindnumbingly spamming a single spell ad infinitum.

    Isnt that the point though? You dont sit on them when you have a bloody Lilly ready due to having a full Lilly bar?

    Always be casting is what I've learnt in my time here and in game
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    Esther Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    Isnt that the point though? You dont sit on them when you have a bloody Lilly ready due to having a full Lilly bar?

    Always be casting is what I've learnt in my time here and in game
    When you have Misery ready, you want to get it out before the fight ends and definitely before using another lily but only if you're certain to get the following Misery out aswell.
    But using Lilies is a dps loss over simply using Glare, because 3 Lilies + Misery itself are 4 GCDs for a total potency of 900, while 4 GCDs spent on Glare are 1200 potency.
    So unless you were able to dump at least one Lily during a transition/ between pulls or need to move more than a slidecast can cover and couldn't preposition before either or need to actually heal/ weave something right now without being able to wait for Dia refresh, it's best to just sit on 3 lilies and spam Glare.
    And that's almost always the case in DF content. Even in savage raids I had cases when I just sat on 3 lilies because I didn't need to move, heal or weave anything that couldn't wait until Dia refresh. Sad as it is, it's best to use them as little as possible and let them overcap unless the situation calls for any of the abovementioned things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    Isnt that the point though? You dont sit on them when you have a bloody Lilly ready due to having a full Lilly bar?

    Always be casting is what I've learnt in my time here and in game
    Adding onto what Rilifane already said: The only dps potency loss related to lilies is over capping blood lilies before you use misery, it's essentially the same as using aetherflow without spending everything or just straight out discarding a card on AST, lost damage that will never return during that particular phase.

    Holding lilies actually isn't a dps loss at all (and is a dps gain if you're glaring) even if you use one, as long as you reach misery eventually(900÷4=225 if misery). Generally though you want to time everything in such a way that lilies are being kept on cooldown when you need to GCD heal, need weave space, or couldn't be using GCDs at all or during downtime to get a true 900 potency attack.

    So you use lilies to move, weave, "always be casting", or to replace GCD heals you would have had to do because if you reach misery every GCD up to it is worth 225 potency, if you don't reach misery however you get no dps return
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