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[KizuyaKatogami]

Again there is consequence in shadowbringers involving a character, I just can't say it cause it's spoilers, but if you at LEAST played through 5.55 you know what I'd be talking about. I think you are just refusing to accept the fact that things are different cause you WANTED a bigger consequence and that's not a good thing, telling me that there SHOULD be something worse happening is kind of a spit in the face to the plot that's already fine as is. They explained pretty darn well in every bit of the story very well on how each character manages to get through things without consequences cause these characters are extremely good at surviving. They will use every tool and knowledge at their disposal to survive to in the end help your character progress through the story.

“They will use every tool and knowledge at their disposal to survive.” Except at the end of ShB there were literally two major plot holes and plot armor created to keep both us and everyone else alive that contradicted lore points they set up throughout the entire expansion. Also, the foes we faced in ShB are literally foes we’ve never faced anything like before. We had major consequences and deaths against foes much lesser than them but somehow in the expansion where the threats are bigger and things are less in our favor we somehow come out unscathed? Sorry but that just doesn’t make sense. Again, it’s a spit in your face because you’re taking it as some personal attack on yourself and your *opinion*. You think the plot is fine as is. I partially disagree. There’s nothing wrong with that i’m just merely giving my opinion that a lot of people also agree with.

[Pandie_Goodies]

“They will use every tool and knowledge at their disposal to survive.” Except at the end of ShB there were literally two major plot holes and plot armor created to keep both us and everyone else alive that contradicted lore points they set up throughout the entire expansion. Also, the foes we faced in ShB are literally foes we’ve never faced anything like before.

First bit, let me tell you straight up that yes you have faced enemies similar to the lightwardens, It's called Primals and their ability to temper? Lightwardens are in a way more corrupted primals that have a focus on an element that just mindlessly kill everything.

Secondly I'm very curious of your two plot holes. Cause So far I didn't see them and even if you considered them plot holes I'm going to disagree with you outright. Your "Opinion" on wanting more dark things to happen is goofy and it will in my "Opinion" Fail the plot and make the story too predictable.

I mean, let's be honest here. "Aether" is this game's deus ex machina. It seems like you can do anything the plot calls for by manipulating this "aether" in various ways.

This guy right here knows exactly what my point. Aether is the main focal point to why alot of people get away with things, and I think that doesn't make the story bad. It just explains what the world is like more and more.

There are most definitely a lot of consequences that have not been realized yet..

I think a lot of people think Y'shtola is "handwaving" away her deaths. But she is most definitely building up to "pay the piper" soon.

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm sure later on Something involving what she keeps doing is going to come at her in a very negative way and the WoL and the others gotta take care of it somehow.

I want to see new characters with different motivations, stronger personalities and more engaging stakes - just like what existed back in ARR and HW.

I honestly would really like to see every class quest npc have some kind of involvement to the endwalker storyline. Where they themselves have VA's and all that cool stuff. As someone who has played every single class quest I really like every npc character, I wanna see more about each character and what they are doing to help prevent the end of days.

[FrogDog]

This guy right here knows exactly what my point. Aether is the main focal point to why alot of people get away with things, and I think that doesn't make the story bad. It just explains what the world is like more and more.

But that's not the characters being clever or good at survival, that's just the writers making up new rules and capabilities on the fly - and it really comes across that way to me during the MSQ sometimes. I wouldn't say that one thing alone makes the story bad but it takes away from it in my view and it's a huge reason why I just don't take this game's story very seriously.