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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I already forsee the death of male Viera
    • Too short (shorter than Higlander), so it doesn't draw those who play tall races.
    • Too tall (taller than Midlander) so it doesn't attract those who play short races
    I can already forecast it. This is similar to what you see in politics, settling for the direct middle is the worst situation you can put male Viera in. They're literally gonna end up as the lame male option. The "twink" (drooling over a teenage boy fantasy) phase will wear out fast when they don't compare well to Miqo'te's short appeal. On the tall side they won't hold a candle to Elezen or male Au ra.

    I implore Square Enix to really consider the female Roegadyn height slider which solves both of these problems. Not that we want them as tall as female Roegadyn, but that you use the same variance that female Roegadyn can use in character creator.

    I'll present it again. As the last male option this is the correct way to approach it


    Or, split it by clan, make male Ravas tall (between Elezen and Highlander) and then make male Veena short (same height as Midlander or so).
    Average is always lame duck territory for men, don't make male Viera an average male, that's what Midlander is there for. We don't need Midlander 2.0.
    I think you overestimate how much ppl care about height. Also, male viera seem to be a pretty good height so far and I havent seen many ppl complain about it at all. I higly doubt its gonna make them lame or its gonna be the 'death of male viera'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I think you overestimate how much ppl care about height. Also, male viera seem to be a pretty good height so far and I havent seen many ppl complain about it at all. I higly doubt its gonna make them lame or its gonna be the 'death of male viera'.
    It's not even worth engaging him on his obsession with heights. He's not going to be talked out of it, and SE aren't going to be talked into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's not even worth engaging him on his obsession with heights. He's not going to be talked out of it, and SE aren't going to be talked into it.
    I'll make sure to mock this statement when they fit that height slot that female Viera fit for the females; between male Elezen and Highlander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I'll make sure to mock this statement when they fit that height slot that female Viera fit for the females; between male Elezen and Highlander.
    Remember this?
    You should, seeing how you went on a crusade posting this God knows how many times.



    Sounds to me like you're pretty critical to the tone of said statement and then threatening to mock said person later for speaking their mind.
    Couldn't that be classified as "attacking a person's authority to question and discuss"? (your own words)

    Oh how the mighty has fallen.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 06-17-2021 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Remember this?
    You should, seeing how you went on a crusade posting this God knows how many times.

    Sounds to me like you're pretty critical to the tone of said statement and then threatening to mock said person later for speaking their mind.
    Couldn't that be classified as "attacking a person's authority to question and discuss"? (your own words)

    Oh how the mighty has fallen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's not even worth engaging him on his obsession with heights. He's not going to be talked out of it, and SE aren't going to be talked into it.
    Gotta fight fire with fire, I had to keep it on the same level; I'm not one of those when they go low we go higher people.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 06-17-2021 at 03:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Gotta fight fire with fire, I had to keep it on the same level; I'm not one of those when they go low we go higher people.
    It's easy to bend the rules when it suits oneself, isn't?
    Going around "correcting" people and then do the same thing oneself, pretty much makes it lose all credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    It's easy to bend the rules when it suits oneself, isn't?
    Going around "correcting" people and then do the same thing oneself, pretty much makes it lose all credibility.
    That's how the world works, treat others the same way you want to be treated. Your issue is not with me, your issue is with Iscah for stooping so low, nice try though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    That's exactly what I think, and most comparisons seem to support this. Even if the trailer male is max height (unlikely) they would still be around the same height as the females.

    Hurry Yoshi-p release the benchmark or the data already! XD
    Female Viera is scratching the short side of the male spectrum, they're barely, taller than male Midlander. It's a bad faith argument to compare them to female Viera. Female Viera is only tall when you compare them to females. I agree on how they are/should be between male Elezen and male Highlander though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    both should be ignored because arguing about height is stupid as SE already has determined their height.
    Source? Or you're assuming?
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 06-17-2021 at 07:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    It's easy to bend the rules when it suits oneself, isn't?
    Going around "correcting" people and then do the same thing oneself, pretty much makes it lose all credibility.
    He had credibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I think you overestimate how much ppl care about height. Also, male viera seem to be a pretty good height so far and I havent seen many ppl complain about it at all. I higly doubt its gonna make them lame or its gonna be the 'death of male viera'.
    Height is one of the main reasons people choose which race to be, I don't think Au ra and Elezen would have the same appeal if they were as short as Midlander. On the same vein, I don't think male Miqo'te would give the same appeal if they were as tall as Au ra. Height is one of the main defining features of any person right after race and hair type.
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