Which healer do you find the easiest?

[Semirhage]

Why you no Like White Mage?

The impression I got from your post was "Play AST or SCH". I ask because maybe I am missing a mechanical reason to not like WHM.

WHM has fewer oGCD heals and fewer spaces to weave them than the other two. Also Assize is such a good damage cooldown that holding it for healing is rarely a good idea. So WHM's only consistent oGCD AOE heal is Asylum.

Without as many oGCD heals you need to interrupt your damage dealing more often.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Why you no Like White Mage?[…]

It’s not that I don’t like WHM. On the contrary, I still play WHM comparably a lot to, say: dps or tanks classes. Basically this:

WHM has fewer oGCD heals and fewer spaces to weave them than the other two. Also Assize is such a good damage cooldown that holding it for healing is rarely a good idea. So WHM's only consistent oGCD AOE heal is Asylum.

Without as many oGCD heals you need to interrupt your damage dealing more often.

Additionally, SCH was my first and my favorite go-to choice. I get babied with their plethora of oGCDs. To that reason WHM was the last healer I learnt to play decently amongst three (I had a ride running Holminster as a WHM for first time, it was hell! But I learnt a lot!) AST was more natural on my hand as well because they too have $hitton of powerful oGCDs.

[Adeacia]

WHM has fewer oGCD heals and fewer spaces to weave them than the other two. Also Assize is such a good damage cooldown that holding it for healing is rarely a good idea. So WHM's only consistent oGCD AOE heal is Asylum.

Without as many oGCD heals you need to interrupt your damage dealing more often.

This is a problem....how?

[Halfgeeek]

@Rein_eon_Osborne Covered it really well. I'm still new to the game but from all that commonly said about healers, I expected WHM to be easiest but it's not. SCH is easy mode all the way to 50 due to Fairy auto-heal, and getting Lustrate in the late 45s.

It never feels weak so far, up to 70. Emergency Tactic is only 15s cooldown, making Succor ~410 potency aoe grp heal, ready whenever you need it.

WHM can't really weave as much since 2.5s Glare/Stone, this is the major difference. SCH can Ruin 2 to weave, AST can weave anytime due to 1.5s main atk spell. While Holy is nice, that spell effect is obscene.

Edit: My brief experience with AST, is that it feels more busy to achieve the same result, so in that sense, I don't enjoy it. I prefer roles where each button press means more, rather than lots of lesser button presses.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

This is a problem....how?

ASTs get 1 free weave slot every Malefic cast, that's more than enough to make use all of their oGCDs INCLUDING the role class oGCDs per minute. They're literally the only one who can weave oGCD to heal without interrupting their damage routine. In a sense, they are 'perfect' in this department.

SCHs get 4 available weave slot per minute from Biolysis natural refresh, but 1 of them is occupied by Aetherflow, so that leaves them effectively with 3 free weave slot per minute with...$hitton amount of other available oGCDs (For once, they were dubbed as 'King of oGCD Healer'!). They can use Ruin II in case they need to move OR opening up 2 weave slot.. at a small cost of damage potential loss each time its used without weaving in Energy Drain under the same window. Not as good as AST, but because Ruin II is a damage button, that damage will always contribute some mileage to the encounter.

WHMs too get 4 available weave slot per minute, but feels far worse than SCH because they have to spend lilies (either heal or blood lily) or early Dia refresh if they want to open up additional weave window or worse, just hardclip it (see Assize on 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th and so on...usage). Party doesn't always need Solace/Rapture or Regen, in turn causing overheals at some point. Misery only comes up after 3 lilies usage so it's not always readily available like SCH's Ruin II. With this clunk, at worse you'll probably hardclip some oGCDs or early Dia refresh that comes in additional risk of misaligning stuffs like Assize or Benison. They loses the most damage potential when they need to heal. Four weave slot vs 12-13 available oGCDs to weave without reliable weave window opener, that's where player will start feeling the clunkiness.

[Halfgeeek]

Sch was just not a healer for me, the whole resource management thing I cant deal with it. It heals did not seem strong to me ofc I know am most likely wrong, it seem to lack oh snap moments like whm/ast say bene/ess dig, I know it has lustrate but you need aether flow for it, idom as the only burst aoe heal they have I feel needs a bigger potency and that has to be on 35 cd and use a stock? I can just fling helios/medica none stop if I have mp for it.

SCH has Emergency Tactic, ogcd, 15s CD for those situations. You turn Succor from 180 + shield to ~410 aoe heal. I find doing that, follow by another Succor will be enough, if not, Indom. For ST emergency burst heal, force crit Adlo + ET and it's ~1500 potency heal. For pt wide aoe, can prep Adlo and transfer it to everyone and ppl take minimal dmg. Really clicks with me compared to WHM toolset.

[Semirhage]

This is a problem....how?

Clipping interrupts the flow of your casting in a clunky, unsatisfying way. WHM weave space is designed so poorly that even the most skilled WHMs in the game clip. As you get more skilled playing the healer jobs, it becomes more and more evident that at the very least AST flows like butter, and WHM flows like mud. That's why Rein was saying WHM isn't the "easiest" to play.

[Adeacia]

ASTs get 1 free weave slot every Malefic cast, that's more than enough to make use all of their oGCDs INCLUDING the role class oGCDs per minute. They're literally the only one who can weave oGCD to heal without interrupting their damage routine. In a sense, they are 'perfect' in this department.

SCHs get 4 available weave slot per minute from Biolysis natural refresh, but 1 of them is occupied by Aetherflow, so that leaves them effectively with 3 free weave slot per minute. They can use Ruin II in case they need to move OR opening up 2 weave slot.. at a small cost of damage potential loss each time its used without weaving in Energy Drain under the same window. Not as good as AST, but because Ruin II is a damage button, that damage will always contribute some mileage to the encounter.

WHMs too get 4 available weave slot per minute, but feels far worse than SCH because they have to spend lilies (either heal or blood lily) or early Dia refresh if they want to open up additional weave window or worse, just hardclip it (see Assize on 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th and so on...usage). Party doesn't always need Solace/Rapture or Regen, in turn causing overheals at some point. Misery only comes up after 3 lilies usage so it's not always readily available like SCH's Ruin II. With this clunk, at worse you'll probably hardclip some oGCDs or early Dia refresh that comes in additional risk of misaligning stuffs like Assize or Benison. They loses the most damage potential when they need to heal.

See, that's your problem. Trying to optimize everything. The moment anyone brings up clipping, I ignore everything else they have to say. That isn't fun to me.

I put in the effort to do the best I can in all the content I run. I do not and will not however, play this game as a spreadsheet simulator.

I find WHM to be the easiest healer to play. I see missing hp, I fix it. To the extent that it's required at least. I like the lilly heals since they are instant cast so I use them all the time, plus that nice Misery after 3. I always play with randoms, not a static. Makes healing more fun since I don't know what will happen.

[Tlamila]

I think the biggest matter if casual play vs optimized/endgame play.
WHM is a very easy entry healer, very low skillfloor. But once you try to play it optimally it's a bit clunky.
AST does take a lot of learning, as well as getting used to weave the cards in normally, but once you get it it's the most optimal.
SCH...I don't know, I never played it at 80 so I don't know much about it, I just know all those different systems (aetherflow, fairy gauge) confused me when levelling it, while for running low level stuff I find it the comfiest.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

See, that's your problem. Trying to optimize everything. The moment anyone brings up clipping, I ignore everything else they have to say. That isn't fun to me.

I put in the effort to do the best I can in all the content I run. I do not and will not however, play this game as a spreadsheet simulator.

I find WHM to be the easiest healer to play. I see missing hp, I fix it. To the extent that it's required at least. I like the lilly heals since they are instant cast so I use them all the time, plus that nice Misery after 3. I always play with randoms, not a static. Makes healing more fun since I don't know what will happen.

That's a fair perspective, I can respect that.
I derive fun from a good balance of optimizing (as in to make gameplay experience for my teammate easier regardless being a static or not) and some splash of stupidity (yes, I did stupid stuffs too but try my best to not do it in a way it stresses randoms).

I do agree on your take that randomness sometimes all we need to make certain encounter interesting & fun. Randomness is certainly not an element we will find from the game, they're from random players (Encounters are scripted, players making mistakes are not).