The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

[Goji1639]

But hey whilst we're on elementary thinking - Let's reverse this situation, shall we. "One could reasonably infer that on your, and other peoples' continued reverence of Asmongold throughout this thread suggests that you're within boundary of being obsessed regarding him playing a video game"

Sure, often times fans are obsessed and often times detractors are jealous. These aren't unreasonable surface level assessments in discussions like this. I'm not really accusing you of being jealous, though; I'm just saying that a condescending phrases like "the almighty and illustrious Asmon gracing us with his presence" can lead people to believe your actual point is tinged with jealousy.

So you're saying Asmongold is being Condescending towards his own fanbase then because he has said "Its Just a game" He doesn't view it as special, but his fans do...so by your logic he's being condescending. Ive watched his videos, his fanbase & others (such as you) are blowing it up more then it is.

Your idea of me is just as wrong as the guy who did claim me to be jealous. Like anybody, when false accusations and lies are thrown at them, I will defend myself.
I could get overly defensive, but Im not gonna let a lie pass.

If you were to say that you're not in any way special, that's modesty. If I were to jump into a thread dedicated to you and unprovoked start telling everyone that you're not special, that's me going out of my way to try to cut you down. Do you really not understand the difference?

People try to cut down celebrities all the time, and the underlying reasons are usually jealousy or to create some kind of impression that you're above things like fandom. I still believe that your intentions here were the latter, but you're free to deny it.

[Kaurhz]

Sure, often times fans are obsessed and often times detractors are jealous. These aren't unreasonable surface level assessments in discussions like this. I'm not really accusing you of being jealous, though; I'm just saying that a condescending phrases like "the almighty and illustrious Asmon gracing us with his presence" can lead people to believe your actual point is tinged with jealousy.

Surface level assessments in discussions of these don't go well, because you know, this is a controversial topic, which least of all shouldn't be underpinned by these inferences - Doesn't make for very productive discussion.

I forget that sarcasm isn't accurately portrayed in the text so I will leave that there and grant it to misinterpretation.

[Goji1639]

Surface level assessments in discussions of these don't go well, because you know, this is a controversial topic, which least of all shouldn't be underpinned by these inferences - Doesn't make for very productive discussion.

I forget that sarcasm isn't accurately portrayed in the text so I will leave that there and grant it to misinterpretation.

"He's nothing special" in a fan thread for a celeb isn't the framework for a productive discussion; it's gaslighting. People responding to that with surface level assessments isn't really something egregious.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Sure, often times fans are obsessed and often times detractors are jealous. These aren't unreasonable surface level assessments in discussions like this. I'm not really accusing you of being jealous, though; I'm just saying that a condescending phrases like "the almighty and illustrious Asmon gracing us with his presence" can lead people to believe your actual point is tinged with jealousy.


If you were to say that you're not in any way special, that's modesty. If I were to jump into a thread dedicated to you and unprovoked start telling everyone that you're not special, that's me going out of my way to try to cut you down. Do you really not understand the difference?

And? Even if he's being modest, He still said its nothing special, so its literally just you and other people blowing it up...not Him. At this point you just refuse to let Asmon tell you not to make it a big deal, and its jelousy that I listen to him?...lol makes NO sense.
Why would I, much less Asmon care that one person or a few people would try to "cut me down"? You think he's that Fragile?

At this point it sound more you you or his fans are just upset that I dare not be as excited as they are.
And how dare I voice an opinion right?
But hey, not like I haven't said something Asmon hasn't already said. Or do I need to repeat it for the 50th time?

Get over it my dude, Asmon playing FFXIV is nothing special.
Asmongold himself said, "Its nothing Special"

[Goji1639]

Asmongold himself said, "Its nothing Special"

He's just being modest; it factually is something special. He's a celebrity; he commands an army of potential customers; that's a special thing for an MMO player; he's not 'just another customer.'

Asmongold himself could say he doesn't have hands, but that wouldn't alter the reality that he has hands.

Asmons fans are excited, so you're here gaslighting because it makes you feel above this. That's the most obvious way to interpret what you're doing, but some people see it as jealousy. Even if these things aren't correct they are the impression you're creating, so that's kind of on you.

[Vahlnir]

And? Even if he's being modest, He still said its nothing special, so its literally just you and other people blowing it up...not Him. At this point you just refuse to let Asmon tell you not to make it a big deal, and its jelousy that I listen to him?...lol makes NO sense.
Why would I, much less Asmon care that one person or a few people would try to "cut me down"? You think he's that Fragile?

At this point it sound more you you or his fans are just upset that I dare not be as excited as they are.
And how dare I voice an opinion right?
But hey, not like I haven't said something Asmon hasn't already said. Or do I need to repeat it for the 50th time?

Get over it my dude, Asmon playing FFXIV is nothing special.
Asmongold himself said, "Its nothing Special"

I share your sentiment on this, at least for the most part. It's nothing special for the FF XIV community. However, it is significant for WoW's. It's not because he's trying FF XIV. It is because he was almost exclusively a WoW player up until now and he trashed FF XIV to heck and back for years. It's not entirely about the person, it's about the message. Personally, I don't care whether he comes here or not. I don't particularly like the guy, but at the end of the day it's a non issue for me. If he's trying to send Blizzard a message though I'm all for it. I watch a few youtubers but I wouldn't say I'm an actual fan of any of them. Their content is just fun for me to watch sometimes, so I do. Asmongold is not one of them though. I know he's a bit of a big deal. I just don't care.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I’m kind of confused with this whole argument. He says it’s nothing special yes, but that’s in regards to his mindset of he’s just playing the game. However, i’d say it’s pretty dang special considering SE went out of their way to comment on the fact he’s coming to try their game. It’s the underlying tones that make it special. Him, a very popular streamer with a very wide audience is coming to try the game. He’s bringing major attention to the game and also money. This is a huge thing for SE just because of how famous he is. That, in my opinion makes him and the situation special. It’s the circumstances of the entire thing. Please don’t call me like, obsessed with him or anything because i honestly can’t really stand his “persona”, i’ve never watched his youtube vids though where he’s apparently normal so i won’t comment too much, but overall i do think this entire situation is special, and it is because of him that makes it so.

[Fawkes]

However, i’d say it’s pretty dang special considering SE went out of their way to comment on the fact he’s coming to try their game.

*The community rep who runs the twitter* commented. It's not like the CEO of SE was barking out orders telling them they needed to reply to the WoW streamer man ASAP.