Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Kobalos]

Eh male viera look like slender/skinny dudes, considering they are meant to be silent assassin types hiding in the shadows, it seems fitting.

[Caurcas]

...and the thread is going back to fetish bait territory. SE has designed races that all follow the same trail of logic. Lalafells are the only outlier, but they are a comic relief race.

[Senn]

To be fair, that would be a good argument if female Viera also looked rather androgynous, but they don't - they're very painfully clearly hot Victoria's Secret supermodels, and if we're implying that is their beauty standard for being a race predominantly female, then every single male has been treated or are even still seen as ugly ducklings if they're not feminine enough (perhaps that is the true reason they're exiled to guard the outskirts of the forest lol)

That said, a 'true androgynous' race would be an interesting concept, but I think it's a little late for that /shrug

I think we're applying human standards to a race that isn't human. The idea of what's considered masculine and feminine is different when it comes to the viera. It's not that the male viera are feminine, it's that the males and females look similar, therefore making them androgynous. I guess with this logic, the female viera would too be considered androgynous within their own race because they look similar to the males. Obviously to us players, the female viera are clearly feminine supermodels, but it may not be viewed that way in the game's story. I hope I'm making sense.

[Fukuro]

I think we're applying human standards to a race that isn't human. The idea of what's considered masculine and feminine is different when it comes to the viera.

i also think when people tend to think of „human standards“ they mostly mean western society. if we compare them to the asian society the standards are different. male idols are more on the „pretty, young“ side of things.

asian beauty standard:

western beauty standard:



these things don‘t apply for everyone tho. everybody has their own liking of things. i just think m viera were created with asian beauty standards in mind while hyur for example i‘d consider as western beauty standard.

[LisSquid]

I'm glad someone else made the connection. I remember someone once said that male au ra were the image of eastern beauty standards, but I kept thinking.. really?

Male viera hit that mark of soft, pretty, and young.

[Caurcas]

Male Viera still have standard human dimorphism. They have broader chest and shoulders than the females, and have far less broad hips. The faces are the only "soft" aspect.

[Amnmaat]

Males and females are physically how they are. Males = rectangles, females = hourglass.
Whatever ya'll are making up in your heads is not science nor reality

Let me restore sanity with this gif

[Coletergeist]

Males and females are physically how they are. Males = rectangles, females = hourglass.
Whatever ya'll are making up in your heads is not science nor reality

Let me restore sanity with this gif

May be pointless; but I'll just go ahead and say it.

What about folks that don't identify with the body they were born with? Like transgender folk? (and others obviously)

I'm a trans male, and I clearly have wider hips than a man that is cisgender. But hey, I'm sure this comment means nothing to you. /shrug

[Amnmaat]

May be pointless; but I'll just go ahead and say it.

What about folks that don't identify with the body they were born with? Like transgender folk? (and others obviously)

I'm a trans male, and I clearly have wider hips than a man that is cisgender. But hey, I'm sure this comment means nothing to you. /shrug

I suggest you ask for a trans male option for all races; those of us who are not trans want to play what looks like us. I don't like the idea that people are trying to jump on ONE specific race to turn them into an lgbt race. That leaves out those of us who are not lgbt.

[LisSquid]

Amnaat, I'm going to be real with you. That was some dumb shit that you just said.