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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Stupid broken melty melty dps is the most fun part of Bozja though
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    You're taking duels far too seriously. They're challenging 1v1, sure, but also slapped right in the middle of content that intentionally received over 100 ridiculously strong Actions and Essences on top of a Medal system for permanent player buffs. It's hardly surprising players eventually figured out the best way to melt them down.

    If you care about challenge, request some ilv synched solo challenges that only use the players normal toolkit. Something like Endless Proving Ground or the Mage Tower from WoW. Bozja was never designed to be balanced.
    Feel like y'all are missing the point. A lot of players are using an exploit that gives them buffs they otherwise would not have acquired if they entered the instance normally. The same type of maneuver got you banned if you brought certain buffs into an Ultimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Clever use of game mechanics.
    I wonder why BLU is not allowed in ultimate...
    It's a cleaver use of game mechanics, death should work! Aswell as Ungarmax!

    Nah, it's abusing how the game works with dummies and buffs. If it was only "clever use of game mechanics" we wouldn't have a line saying "only usable in battle".
    We're not in the cheating part but it definitely wasn't intended.

    Anyway, you do you, I do me. You guys can exploit the abuse but don't call it a "clever use of game mechanics".

    EDIT: As for the bait, removing titles from the cheesemonger is not useful, I personally use titles that represent a content I really like and it may be a surprise to you but I really liked Bozja.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-14-2021 at 11:45 PM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakonic View Post
    Feel like y'all are missing the point. A lot of players are using an exploit that gives them buffs they otherwise would not have acquired if they entered the instance normally. The same type of maneuver got you banned if you brought certain buffs into an Ultimate.
    you will need to be more informative. What is the exploit exactly? all i know is that you are just buffing lost flare star ,other skills with essences, with valor buff and that just wreck the duels a. Are you talking about unger max equivalent?

    do you have any proof?
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    Last edited by Axxion; 06-15-2021 at 12:14 AM.
    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    you will need to be more informative. What is the exploit exactly? all i know is that you are just buffing lost flare star ,other skills with essences, with valor buff and that just wreck the duels a. Are you talking about unger max equivalent?
    do you have any proof?
    I can explain it to you since it's not an actual exploit. Some youtubers explained it well.
    What you need:
    Ordained potion, Lost Excellence (25), Lost Flare (20), Chainspell (20), Banner of Noble Ends (10) and classic Intelligence potion+Your job buffs if you have.
    +Don't forget Dispel (3) or Mirror (1) for Lyon/Menenius. Also take a potion of resistance since you're going to have low HP

    First step:
    Use the Bozjan potion Ordained
    Aggro the dummy to be considered in combat
    Load your set if it's not yet -> Use Lost Excellence
    Swap to Chainspell -> Use Chainspell
    Swap to Banner of Nobles ends
    Int.Potion then zone in around 5 seconds before the duel starts.

    Second step:
    Use your job buffs + Banner of noble ends.
    Swap with font of magic -> Use Font of magic.
    Flare star and watch as the duel opponent melts. (Lost flare will tick at 300k)

    I believe that's all. There's no real exploit like "clipping into a wall" but a massive imbalance due to lost Flare, you need ~75 space and the max is 99.
    Lost Flare will benefit from a short window of 10 seconds and 5 Bozjan buffs except it will apply for all ticks, the boss won't last a minute and you will see one mechanic or two top.

    An actual "exploit" is that a Dancer can grant you buffs like Lost Dervish, Devilment and Technical finish.
    Attacking the Dummy allows you to use Lost Excellence&Lost Chainspell and to get a much wider window for Lost Flare but you can do it against a monster and since you don't need more than 80 space to fit all the buffs, in theory you can do it in a duel.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 06-15-2021 at 01:31 AM.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Attacking the Dummy allows you to use Lost Excellence&Lost Chainspell and to get a much wider window for Lost Flare but you can do it against a monster and since you don't need more than 80 space to fit all the buffs, in theory you can do it in a duel.
    This ^ doing it outside of the duel gives you more time, but you could do all this in a duel, this is just using solar flare potency with modifiers it's not a glitch and i watch hundred's of people mess this up. Not saying it is hard but still. It cost money or time to have enough items to do this consistently. If it cheapens the title for you, I understand, but its not an exploit. That like saying using abilities during ta or any of other buff is an exploit. Its just modifiers for an abilitiy that you can do on a dummy, on a monster in the zadnor, inside the duel itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakii View Post
    This ^ doing it outside of the duel gives you more time, but you could do all this in a duel, this is just using solar flare potency with modifiers it's not a glitch and i watch hundred's of people mess this up. Not saying it is hard but still. It cost money or time to have enough items to do this consistently. If it cheapens the title for you, I understand, but its not an exploit. That like saying using abilities during ta or any of other buff is an exploit. Its just modifiers for an abilitiy that you can do on a dummy, on a monster in the zadnor, inside the duel itself.
    but you are literally using the items that the instance give you. and besides they give you time prep anyways. If someone thought of a way to break the game & while still using what was given and not using a third party tool it is fine.

    For those that do not want use the items that's also fine. Just dont make all this ruckus over something so small.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I can explain it to you since it's not an actual exploit. Some youtubers explained it well.
    What you need:
    Ordained potion, Lost Excellence (25), Lost Flare (20), Chainspell (20), Banner of Noble Ends (10) and classic Intelligence potion+Your job buffs if you have.
    +Don't forget Dispel (3) or Mirror (1) for Lyon/Menenius. Also take a potion of resistance since you're going to have low HP

    First step:
    Use the Bozjan potion Ordained
    Aggro the dummy to be considered in combat
    Load your set if it's not yet -> Use Lost Excellence
    Swap to Chainspell -> Use Chainspell
    Swap to Banner of Nobles ends
    Int.Potion then zone in around 5 seconds before the duel starts.

    Second step:
    Use your job buffs + Banner of noble ends.
    Swap with font of magic -> Use Font of magic.
    Flare star and watch as the duel opponent melts. (Lost flare will tick at 300k)

    I believe that's all. There's no real exploit like "clipping into a wall" but a massive imbalance due to lost Flare, you need ~75 space and the max is 99.
    Lost Flare will benefit from a short window of 10 seconds and 5 Bozjan buffs except it will apply for all ticks, the boss won't last a minute and you will see one mechanic or two top.

    An actual "exploit" is that a Dancer can grant you buffs like Lost Dervish, Devilment and Technical finish.
    Attacking the Dummy allows you to use Lost Excellence&Lost Chainspell and to get a much wider window for Lost Flare but you can do it against a monster and since you don't need more than 80 space to fit all the buffs, in theory you can do it in a duel.
    Yup, I"m totally looking forward to doing this. Chill in an instance until it's down to just me any my friends, farm up a dual, and have at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Yup, I"m totally looking forward to doing this. Chill in an instance until it's down to just me any my friends, farm up a dual, and have at it.
    mounts and having max buffs right before endwalker
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I wonder why BLU is not allowed in ultimate...
    It's a cleaver use of game mechanics, death should work! Aswell as Ungarmax!

    Nah, it's abusing how the game works with dummies and buffs. If it was only "clever use of game mechanics" we wouldn't have a line saying "only usable in battle".
    We're not in the cheating part but it definitely wasn't intended.

    Anyway, you do you, I do me. You guys can exploit the abuse but don't call it a "clever use of game mechanics".

    EDIT: As for the bait, removing titles from the cheesemonger is not useful, I personally use titles that represent a content I really like and it may be a surprise to you but I really liked Bozja.
    Often clever use of game mechanics does not mean it will not or should not be hot fixed, but let us be real to punish people or take titles is insane. Sure hotfix it if they want but to try and frame it as some inherently wrong action is amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I can explain it to you since it's not an actual exploit. Some youtubers explained it well.
    What you need:
    Ordained potion, Lost Excellence (25), Lost Flare (20), Chainspell (20), Banner of Noble Ends (10) and classic Intelligence potion+Your job buffs if you have.
    +Don't forget Dispel (3) or Mirror (1) for Lyon/Menenius. Also take a potion of resistance since you're going to have low HP

    First step:
    Use the Bozjan potion Ordained
    Aggro the dummy to be considered in combat
    Load your set if it's not yet -> Use Lost Excellence
    Swap to Chainspell -> Use Chainspell
    Swap to Banner of Nobles ends
    Int.Potion then zone in around 5 seconds before the duel starts.

    Second step:
    Use your job buffs + Banner of noble ends.
    Swap with font of magic -> Use Font of magic.
    Flare star and watch as the duel opponent melts. (Lost flare will tick at 300k)

    I believe that's all. There's no real exploit like "clipping into a wall" but a massive imbalance due to lost Flare, you need ~75 space and the max is 99.
    Lost Flare will benefit from a short window of 10 seconds and 5 Bozjan buffs except it will apply for all ticks, the boss won't last a minute and you will see one mechanic or two top.

    An actual "exploit" is that a Dancer can grant you buffs like Lost Dervish, Devilment and Technical finish.
    Attacking the Dummy allows you to use Lost Excellence&Lost Chainspell and to get a much wider window for Lost Flare but you can do it against a monster and since you don't need more than 80 space to fit all the buffs, in theory you can do it in a duel.
    In theory, sure, but does anyone actually not use this exploit?

    It's funny how everyone here is trying to portray this not an exploit. I wonder if that's because they secretly used it to do the duels to get the title or field notes.
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