Why do you want a House?

[Dyvid]

Alright alright, let's rein the discussion back in. There are plenty of threads to complain about the Housing situation, this post was designed to find the reason for the madness.

Interesting enough though, in the past it would have seemed people wanted Housing for benefits like gardening but it would appear most people on this thread want a decent size space to express themselves. The question is though, how small is too small? Is the three city inn rooms too small? What about the Crystarium Inn? Another question, is an outdoor space essential?

[ItMe]

The question is though, how small is too small? Is the three city inn rooms too small? What about the Crystarium Inn? Another question, is an outdoor space essential?

For me... it all depends on the idea.

Like the courtyard I made out of my FC room. That would feel real weird as an apartment or as part of a small house.

Or how I wanted to make my version of the Lala only house in Kholusia. That could only work as a small house.

Whatever the space you have is you can always come up with something. It's too bad we all can't have more unrestricted access to these canvasses though for when we have an idea we love, but can't peruse because we really need a specific canvas for it : (

[Tyssyn]

I strted out with a small house - I got lucky back during Stormblood. But, with all the wonderful things they keep adding, I ran out of room. I guess my vision exceeded what a small had room for, and I ran across a medium in Shirogane, I had the gil, so I relocated. Now, I'm giving some serious thought to maybe getting a large in Ishgard (I at least will try to get a medium) just because I'm out of room again. I also have an FC room and an apartment in Mist. I just love decorating. I enjoy decorating a yard, especially when they give us so many outdoor items as rewards for various things.

[Jojoya]

Alright alright, let's rein the discussion back in. There are plenty of threads to complain about the Housing situation, this post was designed to find the reason for the madness.

Interesting enough though, in the past it would have seemed people wanted Housing for benefits like gardening but it would appear most people on this thread want a decent size space to express themselves. The question is though, how small is too small? Is the three city inn rooms too small? What about the Crystarium Inn? Another question, is an outdoor space essential?

It depends on ideas the player has that they want to create. Not everyone wants the same thing. I can always place a small bedroom in a Mansion but I can't place a huge ballroom in an apartment. Not everyone is trying to create a home with their housing. There are players making night clubs, taverns, boutiques, etc. Someone trying to create an Opera House might be able to pull it off in a mansion (would still be difficult) but they'd never be able to do it in a small or medium.

I would love for housing to be more of a sandbox in general, like it was in Wildstar, like it is in RIFT and ESO. than a choice of static crackerboxes like it is here. What if I had an idea where I want to stack small rooms vertically instead of placing them side by side horizontally? I could do that if my medium was just one big huge open space to work in instead of 3 pre-defined floors with pre-defined stairwells that can't be changed.

As for outdoor space, there's nothing that says outdoors can't be part of housing instance (again we see this with Wildstart, RIFT and ESO housing). Give the player an instanced grassy meadow or beachfront. Give them a choice of house-shaped items to place on that beach front or partitions/floors/roofs to create a house in the layout they want (the current crackerboxes are boring).

[Dyvid]

It depends on ideas the player has that they want to create. Not everyone wants the same thing. I can always place a small bedroom in a Mansion but I can't place a huge ballroom in an apartment. Not everyone is trying to create a home with their housing. There are players making night clubs, taverns, boutiques, etc. Someone trying to create an Opera House might be able to pull it off in a mansion (would still be difficult) but they'd never be able to do it in a small or medium.

I would love for housing to be more of a sandbox in general, like it was in Wildstar, like it is in RIFT and ESO. than a choice of static crackerboxes like it is here. What if I had an idea where I want to stack small rooms vertically instead of placing them side by side horizontally? I could do that if my medium was just one big huge open space to work in instead of 3 pre-defined floors with pre-defined stairwells that can't be changed.

As for outdoor space, there's nothing that says outdoors can't be part of housing instance (again we see this with Wildstart, RIFT and ESO housing). Give the player an instanced grassy meadow or beachfront. Give them a choice of house-shaped items to place on that beach front or partitions/floors/roofs to create a house in the layout they want (the current crackerboxes are boring).

Well obviously you'll have limits due to size, but I'm still an advocate of upgrading Apartments to a larger, empty box with tools for players to build their how two or three story space or not to build that space. A place dedicated to where player can place outdoor items. I know Yoshi-P said they don't want to do this but I feel that is a mistake. We should focus on providing an adequate space for the average player to experience the system.

[Nepentha]

I enjoy having a place for my friends to use as a venue. We hang out, hold events, etc. Someone uses the garden, I man the airships and subs. We have themed FC rooms. It's just a nice focal point for everyone.

[lolzyking]

honestly, they need to atleast overhaul the system so that people who are unlucky enough to not get a ward house can atleast load up an instanced house to play with and use the system.

[Kenky]

honestly, they need to atleast overhaul the system so that people who are unlucky enough to not get a ward house can atleast load up an instanced house to play with and use the system.

Apartments. I rest my case.

[anguel]

i myself own my small house for nearly a year and half, reason why i took it, was for the RP way off having a "home"
next the biggest reason, im a main cook crafter, and i spent nearly all my day crafting (some enjoy savage/ex, me its crafting xD), once in the past during stormblood era,
while i was crafting nearly everyday i would get 1 or 2 tell of ppl asking me for food discount, so i started to look for place to "hide" so i dont get bothered by these ppl, worked for a time, anyway at some point i got tired of it, and took myself a small house, having retailers, and servant bell, just 2m away from me, is incredibily helpfull !! now i can craft, in my gorgeous house everyday without being bothered ^^

[lolzyking]

yeah no, those aren't the same, I meant the whole system, that includes the garden.