Summoner 6.0 Rework (my reimagining)

[Dyvid]

To what end, though? As a DRG, does the playflow of summoning an eikon an having it battle for me remotely fit the appeal for which I would have likely chosen to become a DRG? And BLM? Bard?

If you want older-style iconic summons, then even a revamp of Limit Break to actually be interesting job-specialized mechanics would be a better fit than not only axing a mostly enjoyed job but also degrading the others' experience with shoe-horned extraneous vestiges of that job. Have SMN be the most versatile LB user of any job, able to enhance their current Egi/Summon into some grand and immediate effect. Voila.

Well, in relation to a brand new MMO it could some as simple as a timer to something as complex as a limit break. It wouldn't be a pet, but a spell because that is what most people envision when they think of summons. The summon fits the job; BRD could have Siren, BLM could be Diablos, WHM Seraph. The point is they problem with SMN regardless of which Final Fantasy MMO we talk about is that it never lined up with what people thought it should be, that will always be the case; yea some might not agree with something like Alexander being Paladins summon but they won't have an never-ending fight on what summon it was suppose to be. This is a good example of what I mean by action rather than pet, it comes out does it's special move then goes away. Again we are NOT talking about FFXIV in any way shape or form, just something for a future MMO to consider.

What if they just copied BLM. Put cast times back on Summon spells. You summon the Primal, it does a big AoE attack, then disappears and goes on cool down forcing you to summon another Primal. You do this till you are out of mp which you then use ruin spells to regain mp. Or something.

A HUGE problem with summoner is that its a very iconic aspect of Final Fantasy, and while I respect the fact a lot of people like it as is, you need to understand that in kind summoner as it exists is... sorta a slap in the face to people who enjoy summoner in other FF games? So 'just pick a different job' doesn't really address the complaints here: they aren't that the job isn't fun to play, its that the job doesn't match what people who like summoner as a FF concept want summoner to be, and that is just as valid a complaint in my opinion.

The concept behind job design to make each play differently, it would be rather boring to have SMN, RDM, BLM all play the same way. BLM is iconic but doesn't play like other FF games but that okay because at the end of the day it's fun. It's also a slap in the face to people who enjoy playing FFXIV Summoner to ask for a complete redesign because it doesn't play like what you want a FF Summoner to be.

Ah screw it. I've been on these boards for almost 8 years and no matter what, people just keep coming and keep asking for the job to be completely scrapped so they can get the Summoner they want; regardless if anyone is actually enjoying the job.