6.0 Story Speculations

[Alleo]

Well at least we can take comfort in the fact that our own little island sanctuary that we seemingly will be able to start with 6.0 will be save from it all. So even if there is destruction everywhere else, all will be well there. (Yes I still find it funny that we will be able to take this up while the world is fighting against the end)

[Fenral]

Well at least we can take comfort in the fact that our own little island sanctuary that we seemingly will be able to start with 6.0 will be save from it all. So even if there is destruction everywhere else, all will be well there. (Yes I still find it funny that we will be able to take this up while the world is fighting against the end)

It's been announced as 6.1 content, so technically it's where we can retire to after saving the world. I imagine it will be unlocked by the level 90 MSQ, just to prevent that disconnect.

[Alleo]

It's been announced as 6.1 content, so technically it's where we can retire to after saving the world. I imagine it will be unlocked by the level 90 MSQ, just to prevent that disconnect.

Damn then I must have remembered it wrongly. *insert "my day is ruined and my disappointment is immeasurable" meme* Well then its at least a nice little retirement place for the poor Wol.

[WhiteArchmage]

I'm kind of hoping that the rest of the Telophoroi are Ascians who decided to get all flamboyant like Fandaniel, and are now taking on reimagined forms of the Four Fiends >_> Do we have enough Ascians left to do that?

*takes out list of remaining Ascians*
Pashtarot, Knight-Star, counterpart to Zeromus The Condemner.
Halmarut, The Arbiter, counterpart to Exodus The Judge-Sal.
Deudalaphon, The Benevolent, counterpart to Adrammelech The Wroth.
Ultima the High Seraph, Ascian name being Altima after her original mistranslated name in FFT.

There's... just enough of them, actually. I previously mentioned thinking (and fearing) our remaining Ascians will be glorified dungeon bosses; and considering who they're the counterparts of, I'm very intrigued about their roles in EW, ESPECIALLY Altima...

[Tensaihime]

It's been announced as 6.1 content, so technically it's where we can retire to after saving the world. I imagine it will be unlocked by the level 90 MSQ, just to prevent that disconnect.

Sounds good to me! WoL can be like Matoya, but with a surfboard!

still wanna swing by Fortemps Manor again though

[KizuyaKatogami]

*takes out list of remaining Ascians*
Pashtarot, Knight-Star, counterpart to Zeromus The Condemner.
Halmarut, The Arbiter, counterpart to Exodus The Judge-Sal.
Deudalaphon, The Benevolent, counterpart to Adrammelech The Wroth.
Ultima the High Seraph, Ascian name being Altima after her original mistranslated name in FFT.

There's... just enough of them, actually. I previously mentioned thinking (and fearing) our remaining Ascians will be glorified dungeon bosses; and considering who they're the counterparts of, I'm very intrigued about their roles in EW, ESPECIALLY Altima...

Isn’t emmerololth still alive since we see her in ARR which takes place after the events of eureka

[WhiteArchmage]

I believe Moose refered to it as "Schrodinger's Emmerololth", and has her with a big ol' "WTF" on his spreadsheet. Basically from what we know of her she's dead. Like, really dead, "Galuf and friends scattered her essence in such a way that she shouldn't be able to reform" dead. But we DO see her in ARR, which may have been an oversight, or maybe someone else got raised to the seat of Emmerololth and the one in Eureka's backstory was the previous one.

If it WAS an oversight, at that point they should've just used Deudalaphon, who hasn't been mentioned, or Halmarut, who's only mentioned in Akademia Anyder. If there's a new Deudalaphon... guess that actually leaves us with 5 Ascians for (likely) 5 dungeons between 81 and 89 (plus the lvl 90 dungeon), but it feels like a very important plot point to not have been picked up again.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I believe Moose refered to it as "Schrodinger's Emmerololth", and has her with a big ol' "WTF" on his spreadsheet. Basically from what we know of her she's dead. Like, really dead, "Galuf and friends scattered her essence in such a way that she shouldn't be able to reform" dead. But we DO see her in ARR, which may have been an oversight, or maybe someone else got raised to the seat of Emmerololth and the one in Eureka's backstory was the previous one.

If it WAS an oversight, at that point they should've just used Deudalaphon, who hasn't been mentioned, or Halmarut, who's only mentioned in Akademia Anyder. If there's a new Deudalaphon... guess that actually leaves us with 5 Ascians for (likely) 5 dungeons between 81 and 89 (plus the lvl 90 dungeon), but it feels like a very important plot point to not have been picked up again.

Well, we don’t know if she’s dead though. We assume her to be but even Galuf said he doesn’t understand the workings of the lifestream. We have to keep in mind at the time they had an unsundered who specialized in the underworld. Idk if Moose mentioned that or not but it’s the more likely thing imo.

[Anonymoose]

I believe Moose refered to it as "Schrodinger's Emmerololth", and has her with a big ol' "WTF" on his spreadsheet.

Well, we don’t know if she’s dead though. We assume her to be but even Galuf said he doesn’t understand the workings of the lifestream. We have to keep in mind at the time they had an unsundered who specialized in the underworld.

At this point it's a race to respond to the CLEAN-UP ON AISLE 2.3 page.

On one hand you've got the explicit phrase "consigning her essence to be scattered within that raging torrent of aether, never again to reform." Val was confirmed destroyed by 2.2, and Emmerololth was in 2.3. There are ways to make sense of that IN-WORLD (Oh, another shard was re-risen very very quickly.) but the most sensible explanation OUT-OF-WORLD is that the writer of Eureka forgot one or both of those plot point positions, and also perhaps that Elidibus and Lahabrea were SHOCKED an Ascian could be ganked in 2.5 (which is already weird alongside Emet-Selch mentioning how many times he's overseen "changes of the guard"). So there's a lot to clean up there, not the least of which the matter of, if they go the route of Emmerololth being re-risen, why not Nabriales? Why not Igeyorhm? Why not rush another Mitron and Loghrif out that the ones in Eden didn't know about? Tried to get an extra Ascian off the board and possibly resurrected most of them! WHOOPS.

Other than that, we've got Pashtarot, Halmarut, Deudalaphon and Altima in the wind. Fandaniel in our face. Two unexplained masks on Gaius's belt. And two extra overlords who shouldn't exist in the 2.0/2.3 scenes.

[EaraGrace]

At this point it's a race to respond to the CLEAN-UP ON AISLE 2.3 page.

On one hand you've got the explicit phrase "consigning her essence to be scattered within that raging torrent of aether, never again to reform." Val was confirmed destroyed by 2.2, and Emmerololth was in 2.3. There are ways to make sense of that IN-WORLD (Oh, another shard was re-risen very very quickly.) but the most sensible explanation OUT-OF-WORLD is that the writer of Eureka forgot one or both of those plot point positions, and also perhaps that Elidibus and Lahabrea were SHOCKED an Ascian could be ganked in 2.5 (which is already weird alongside Emet-Selch mentioning how many times he's overseen "changes of the guard"). So there's a lot to clean up there, not the least of which the matter of, if they go the route of Emmerololth being re-risen, why not Nabriales? Why not Igeyorhm? Why not rush another Mitron and Loghrif out that the ones in Eden didn't know about? Tried to get an extra Ascian off the board and possibly resurrected most of them! WHOOPS.

Other than that, we've got Pashtarot, Halmarut, Deudalaphon and Altima in the wind. Fandaniel in our face. Two unexplained masks on Gaius's belt. And two extra overlords who shouldn't exist in the 2.0/2.3 scenes.

Puts another coin in the “pls Yoshi adjust the cutscenes” fund.