Scholar has the worst design of any job in the game, and here's why.

[KaerisKlyne]

The skills are kind of ehh as capstones, but they all fit the core of SCH's risk-reward strategist gameplay. It's up to you to know an encounter well enough to know when you can comfortably lock yourself out of parts of your kit and when you might need those things for more effective play.

Is it the most engaging thing? No. Could be better all around for every healer, and that's been true since game launch. It was a bit more dynamic for SCH specifically when we still had Miasma 2 and Shadowflare + Cleric Stance, but the toggles and DoTs were the same as now. There were just more of them.

SCH is still my fav of the 3 when I want to be a little busier than when I run WHM because of the risk-reward elements of the kit. I would still love something to be done about healer downtime limited dps option spamming.

[Sighearth]

I agree with you OP with near everything you said. But this imperfections its what makes you have something to optimize and work around with. If the job was not some what broken then it would be too boring to play at least in my opinion. I'm still sad with 1 particular change that downgraded the fun in the job for me, which was making fairy abilities your ogcd now. Why take your fairy management away? I cant manual embrace anymore, I cant order my fairy while casting broil, I cant deploy off my fairy... never made sense to me

[SweetPete]

I just want Selenes support abilities back and either make the fairy powerful again or let us summon both Eos and Selene at the same time hehe.

[Shurrikhan]

Scholar main, 100% agree with everything posted here. Your main skills locking out or not synergizing at all with other skills is just plain awful. Why does dissipation give you a heal boost and aetherflow stacks but the heal boost doesn't affect aetherflow heals? Why would it not synergize?

On the other hand... why would they necessarily synergize? That added strength would have to come from somewhere, perhaps making the skill even less distinct or straightforward.

No, really. The "synergy" here is really just a third effect.

1. Increase your spell healing.
2. Give Aetherflow stacks.
3. (New) Increase Aetherflow healing.

With that, the value of each Aetherflow stack increases. If the skill was a low-cost situational before, it newly becomes a low-benefit rotational skill instead.

It's ultimately arbitrary, trading what would be (A) more intuitive in terms of expected value of each Aetherflow ability for (B) a faintly more intuitive tooltip ("spell healing" -> "healing"), except in that it also requires some further balance for that added buff.

The entire fairy gauge only serves two purposes: adding fake depth to the class, and making you even more useless after a rez.

If only this weren't also true for the majority of job gauges...

i agree to that, i dont agree to ppl saying healer became boring in shb, healers always were boring dps wise. thats how the game is built since the beggining, i can understand if someone have a suggestion to make it more engaging, but that ends here, we are not the ones to decide that. if u like it how it is u play it if u dont u move to another job or another game, making crying posts all the time in the forums wont solve anything

Can't tell if shitpost by intent or neglect...

[Kabooa]

Can't tell if shitpost by intent or neglect...

Could be both.

I personally don't find dots without additional mechanics interesting, especially given how weak they are in FF14, so for me personally - yeah, the healer DPS kits were always boring. They're a little more boring now, but we're talking going from a 3 to a 2 on a 10 point scale.

Even at their most complex, they were still the least interesting iteration of the role I've played throughout various games.

By all means, keep knocking the Devs for change, but do the rest of us a favor and ask for a little more than getting the DoTs back.

[Shurrikhan]

Could be both.

My sight there was more on his claim that, essentially, "They've always been boring (by my personal criteria), so we shouldn't ask for them to be less boring, and we have no right to request changes if we find something boring anyways (instead, we should just quit and find another game, likely with a similarly increasing break in communication between the game's developers and players since that warrant holds for every other game as well)."

[GrimGale]

"Satisfaction", "Fun" and "Engaging" are always very nebulous terms. Obviously we can't define objectively what "fun" or "entertaining" gameplay is, since enjoyment is by definition a subjective experience.

That being said, I'd say we do have objective data about healer gameplay: Parsers.

We know about healing downtime, we know what parts of their kit healers use the most. And we know, gameplay wise, what skills and abilities have objectively more value.

It is clear to say, there is a disconnect between the amount of time we spend doing damage and the amount of skills we use to do so compared to the amount of skills we use to heal and the time we actually spend healing.

Hypotetically, healing by spamming one spell and nothing else would be unnacceptable game play. How is the opposite acceptable?

[Imora]

I just want Selenes support abilities back and either make the fairy powerful again or let us summon both Eos and Selene at the same time hehe.

Wait what?? What's the difference between them now??? I haven't played SCH since HW.

[Absurdity]

Wait what?? What's the difference between them now??? I haven't played SCH since HW.

There is none, Selene got all her unique abilities removed and now just has the exact same abilities as Eos does.
Your fairies are, essentially, just two different skins for a bunch of oGCDs.

[Imora]

There is none, Selene got all her unique abilities removed and now just has the exact same abilities as Eos does.
Your fairies are, essentially, just two different skins for a bunch of oGCDs.

Oh wth.

I always ran Selene if i had a WHM or AST in group(our AST ran dinural) because she was awesome

Guess I use her because i prefer her colors then.