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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Zadnor fates need retuning.

    It's hard to get gold on some jobs, and Dancers most optimal playstyle means that you have to pull everything with your AOEs. It's hard not to die to mechanics that tend to hit harder.

    People also don't really like to party up as much anymore compared to older content. There's not as much team effort. Everything also dies way too fast, because people have the suns combined with lost actions. It's completely unfair to people still grinding through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    Oh great, comment bait that is an easy target for the drama making masses on these forums to upvote. :/

    You can't just get good when you have so many things stacked against you. I'm very upset by this reply, and I think it should be taken down before it derails the tone of my entire thread. This counts as bullying.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 06-05-2021 at 02:55 PM.

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    Player WoW's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Oh great, comment bait that is an easy target for the drama making masses on these forums to upvote. :/

    You can't just get good when you have so many things stacked against you. I'm very upset by this reply, and I think it should be taken down before it derails the tone of my entire thread. This counts as bullying.
    You can't handle the truth!
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    Pay WoW no mind. He always trying to start drama. As for the fates I was trying to farm the top half for relic drops and the stuff was dead in about 30 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    You can't handle the truth!
    The worst fate is the puppetmaster fate. The mobs are so weak that anytime there are more than four people, it dies too instantly. You can't handle the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    The worst fate is the puppetmaster fate. The mobs are so weak that anytime there are more than four people, it dies too instantly. You can't handle the truth.
    Then git gud! How hard can that be?! Start burning those lost actions that you're hoarding!
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    I can't get gold even with Deep Martialist/ maxed DPS valor/Inner Release/tank stance-boosted Tomahawk spam despite being the first one to arrive, assuming the FATEs are at minimum scaling and there are several players around.

    It seems like there's a fixed minimum contribution requirement for gold that does not change regardless of how scaled up/down a FATE is as I've gotten gold even from insanely tanky FATEs by showing up during the last 5% or so of the boss' HP and only getting off maybe four or five Tomahawks.

    So yes, there is a definite issue with how these things are being scaled that no amount of "getting good" is going to actually overcome. Solutions would be to increase the detection radius for FATE scaling (I've noticed that the FATE scaling up north tends to reset to minimum whenever everyone goes to the Alkonost CE up there) and make the required contribution for gold scale based on how much HP the boss has.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 06-05-2021 at 04:04 PM.

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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    As much as I love Zadnor I'll have to agree. There's a few technical issues and gameplay issues they need to reconsider

    1. ps4 doesn't load as fast as a lot of newer computers, unless you swap an ssd in it but even then other components are holding it back in terms of loading. But not just ps4, a lot of pc players play on computers which don't load that fast as well.
    2. Fates ending so quick is systematically forcing people to do Zadnor on tank to get credit.
    3. Skirmishes should be tested so that they can't be zergged and killed in under 1 minute. The weird thing is that there are some which are tuned very well, so it's really strange that some can be completed in 20 seconds.

    As it relates to Dalraida; one of the reasons why some of skirmishes are tuned to be completed really fast might be to make Dalraida spawn faster. You can just adjust the spawn timer slightly or leave it the same for now. Just don't allow people to be able to complete skirmishes in under 1 minute.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    I view party feature as a game-given tool to make my gameplay easier, in this case: getting gold rating. Why would I deny such good tool when it’s just few clicks away.. well to each their own.

    Until they’re tuned (if it’s going to happen at all), your best bet is still to stick on one zone & party up with players of similar goals. Personally I, too have fair share of soloing myself & still get gold rating 7 out of 10 times. Partying up shoots that number up to 9 out of 10 times.

    Also: while I do agree some skirmishes do need abit of tuning (Attack of the Machines is one of them that I can remember), I fail to see how those players burning down skirmishes under 20s can be ‘unfair’. They worked hard for that, why would you punish them for investing their time & being creative?

    EDIT: After clearing one of the skirmish called "Relic Unleashed" (the one you fought pseudo Famfrit in zone 3), something about this skirmish could probably be used as a potential fix. Unlike many other skirmish, this one shows up in the map, but bosses remains untargetable for a bit less than a minute. This notifies other players & enables them to gather up before actually starting the encounter. One minute may not sounds enough, but it's definitely enough for those who camp to dedicate farming in -one- zone
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-05-2021 at 04:53 PM.

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