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    I want a house for gardening, and because I like being able to use all the crafting skills I've built up to make something for myself, rather than just selling stuff on the MB. I also think it is incredibly appalling and somewhat insulting to make housing so limited when I keep getting rewards that I CAN'T USE because I don't have a house. I don't know why SE is so stubborn about adding a lottery system or about regularly increasing the number of available lots, but it's frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malk77 View Post
    I don't know why SE is so stubborn about adding a lottery system or about regularly increasing the number of available lots, but it's frustrating.
    A lottery system won't get you a house when there are no houses available. Why do you want them to waste time creating one instead of putting that time and effort into solving the supply problem?

    SE doesn't regularly add houses because it requires negotiating for physical space at the centers where the servers are located, obtaining the hardware needed for those servers, and sending their own technicians to do the installation work. There's a slight chance COVID has forced them to change their stance on the latter, as we're seeing with the announcement about the OC data center. Travel restrictions mean they need to rely on third party contractors for setting up the data center, and probably have been for some of the other overseas technical maintenance as well. Whether or not they will be willing to rely more on third party support once COVID restrictions are no longer an issue is something only time will tell.

    There's also the problem of not every world being in need of housing but the number of houses per world has to be the same due to SE's chosen technical design. Adding more wards because some servers need more houses means other worlds will end up with wards that are empty because there aren't enough players who want them (and that's a wasteful business expense from a corporate point of view).

    Many of the JP worlds and 2 of the EU worlds have plenty of houses available right now for players to walk up and buy. Why don't we see the same situation in NA? Because NA players like to claim that worlds are dead if they aren't massively overcrowded so SE holds back on adding more worlds here. If players didn't demand the overcrowded worlds, SE would have reason to add more worlds and we'd have more houses in NA as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    A lottery system won't get you a house when there are no houses available. Why do you want them to waste time creating one instead of putting that time and effort into solving the supply problem?.
    Nonsense. You think every bit of the game is populated at all times? It'd be a huge QOL improvement for house hunters.

    Your other point is laughable. There has never, and will never, be a world with empty housing wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malk77 View Post
    Nonsense. You think every bit of the game is populated at all times? It'd be a huge QOL improvement for house hunters.

    Your other point is laughable. There has never, and will never, be a world with empty housing wards.
    It's not a huge QoL improvement when it doesn't result in players getting the houses they want.

    And yes, there have been worlds with empty housing wards on other data centers at times (or are you trying to nitpick over 3 larges and a couple of mediums having owners while every single other plot in the ward is vacant?). Go back and visit the housing census thread posts from 2018. Vacancies weren't evenly distributed between all the districts and wards. Shiro generally filled but you'd have a couple of empty wards in LB and Mist with Goblet having several empty wards.
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    I bet most of the people whining about not getting a house in here would play around for a few hours with it, then realize how much work it is to actually build something nice and then never enter their house again just blocking the plot for someone else.

    Before you even buy a house, are you willing to invest hundreds of hours into it? Do you even have all crafting jobs at max to create the furnitures?

    I have seen too many orphaned houses because people think they must have one and then not doing anything with it, its sad and unfair for those whoa ctually are into the whole housing/decorating thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    I bet most of the people whining about not getting a house in here would play around for a few hours with it, then realize how much work it is to actually build something nice and then never enter their house again just blocking the plot for someone else.

    Before you even buy a house, are you willing to invest hundreds of hours into it? Do you even have all crafting jobs at max to create the furnitures?

    I have seen too many orphaned houses because people think they must have one and then not doing anything with it, its sad and unfair for those whoa ctually are into the whole housing/decorating thing.
    It is not "unfair" as you put it for every player to own a house in this game. What the player decides to do with it is their business. Let's not cast blame on a player that has one personal house, let's cast blame where it belongs, on SE for not enforcing a 1 house per acct from day 1 and still after years, not fixing the mess they created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    SE for not enforcing a 1 house per acct from day 1 and still after years, not fixing the mess they created.
    Well i can't tell you a solution for this, maybe the best for the masses would be to take away those additional houses players own, and only leave them the largest one, or the house with the most items inside.
    My Server is very young and doesnt have that problem to begin with so i don't know how bad it is for others. Last time i checked a few days ago, Goblet had 16 free plots available, i also know a lot of people dont even have enough Gil on my server to afford a small one, although 3-4 million really isnt that much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malk77 View Post
    Show me a world where this is still accurate and I'll transfer immediately. If not, your 2+ year old data is acknowledged as no longer relevant.
    Twintania always has free plots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    I bet most of the people whining about not getting a house in here would play around for a few hours with it, then realize how much work it is to actually build something nice and then never enter their house again just blocking the plot for someone else.

    Before you even buy a house, are you willing to invest hundreds of hours into it? Do you even have all crafting jobs at max to create the furnitures?

    I have seen too many orphaned houses because people think they must have one and then not doing anything with it, its sad and unfair for those whoa ctually are into the whole housing/decorating thing.
    I mean Kinda?
    I get a feeling it often get to a "I want one cause i can't have one" sort of situation.

    But I don't think it's fair to lump everyone in that camp, I'm sure there is people like me who just want a house to start decorate and upgrade to bigger size as time go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's not a huge QoL improvement when it doesn't result in players getting the houses they want.

    And yes, there have been worlds with empty housing wards on other data centers at times (or are you trying to nitpick over 3 larges and a couple of mediums having owners while every single other plot in the ward is vacant?). Go back and visit the housing census thread posts from 2018. Vacancies weren't evenly distributed between all the districts and wards. Shiro generally filled but you'd have a couple of empty wards in LB and Mist with Goblet having several empty wards.
    This. Pre-SHB we had wards, especially in Goblet for months on end empty/vacant on my server.
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