Chill with the fates in Zadnor, I can't even reach them before it dies

[Venandi]

Telling people to stick to one zone is giving up and limiting the mettle for everyone to one-third of what it could be. If we coordinated a bit we could get triple the mettle but apparently this is too hard for people. This is why I miss the NM train in Eureka.

[Jettinson]

Telling people to stick to one zone is giving up and limiting the mettle for everyone to one-third of what it could be. If we coordinated a bit we could get triple the mettle but apparently this is too hard for people. This is why I miss the NM train in Eureka.

The reason you have NM train is because the NMs have a lenghtier cooldown compared to Bozja so people work together, there is even a tracker to help out to see how terrible it would be if no one shouted or waited. People barely or never wait for bunny fates since they pop up constantly as the extra part.

Bozja on other hand you will always have those common non CE skirmkshes popping, so best bet is to just get to the middle area of a zone and ready to get to it.
Still shout chat is filled with players looking for Skirmishes group and specifying which zone they want to farm so you can find a party and have a better success in getting golden rating.
(In my experience I do not miss NM fate train, while I met many nice people there and gladly helped in spawning stuff, not having to worry about big cooldown is a blessing)

[Vahlnir]

Telling people to stick to one zone is giving up and limiting the mettle for everyone to one-third of what it could be.

No, it is telling you what the most efficient way to grind is. lol Skirmishes spawn too fast and too far apart, often poorly scaled to boot. Trying to coordinate 72 random people is an impossible task. In Zadnor, they are also pretty spread out in zone 2 and 3. So...you are left with 2 choices. Stick to one zone in Zadnor and get mettle, or try to hit them all and get none.

[Duskane]

Zerging all 3 zones with 50+ people doesnt sound like a much better compromise and more likely to miss more and have to deal with fate mobs disappearing or just lag.

[Saefinn]

I got around to trying Zadnor this weekend and this thread is not wrong. I can be at the crystal, a FATE pops and it's nearly done by the time I get there and that's with the speed boost for mounts. Somebody mentioned in shout there's a spawn order, so maybe I can go find out what that is, so I've got a better advantage, but that seems silly to me.

Most of the FATEs really do feel undertuned too. There's some interesting ones, I'll give that.

And in fairness for the Southern Front we didn't tend to camp one area for FATEs but instead went where they spawned. But they were better tuned in the Southern Front.

However, my biggest gripe is, always with the FATE trains. Eureka was supposed to be a throw back to classic MMO titles and like FFXI and introduce its style of endgame with Notorious Monsters in an open area map, what we got as: glorified FATE trains. Bozja was supposed to be an improvement and lessons learned from Eureka and delve deeper into that kind of content, what we got: glorified FATE trains that are at least broken up be CE's. CE's I think make the experience closer to what I'd expect of FFXIV inspired endgame content that's tuned to how FFXIV. But FATE trains aren't engaging or interesting content. And for something that's supposed to be different I'd not expect it here, but outside of it maybe.

But there are things they've done right in this respect, I like the lost actions, I like Castrum, I like Delubrum up until people start getting Doom, I like Critical Engagements, I like the concept. And I like that it's less grindy than Eureka and I don't have to suffer through 2 zones of Eureka content I hate to get to the enjoyable parts.

I just wish most of my experience wasn't running around doing FATEs, I got tired of that for levelling back in 2.0.

[Xerkrosis]

The fates scale quite weirdly. It seems as if the zones are divided into more zones and the activity is falsely measured. In z3, the western fates are much faster annihalated, than the one in center and east, where everyone idles until next fate pops.

The two things I learned very fast:
- Focus on one zone only and stand in the middle of it so you can reach every spot fast (you will see people gathering there)
- Be in a group: Even if you are the first at the fate, you may only get silver if you are alone. Just shout "lfg zone (1, 2 or 3)"

Agree, it takes more time for zone-hopping than Southern Front.
What I though don't much understand is people not joining up party. Okay, it's annoying if you have a leader who sleeps on registering for CEs, but else there's only advantages in a party.
- You get clusters if a party-member was attacking an garlean
- You get party-buffs
- Your healer sees you if your HP is low or you're having a nap
- It's much easier to get gold in fates

[Venandi]

I got around to trying Zadnor this weekend and this thread is not wrong. I can be at the crystal, a FATE pops and it's nearly done by the time I get there and that's with the speed boost for mounts. Somebody mentioned in shout there's a spawn order, so maybe I can go find out what that is, so I've got a better advantage, but that seems silly to me.

Most of the FATEs really do feel undertuned too. There's some interesting ones, I'll give that.

And in fairness for the Southern Front we didn't tend to camp one area for FATEs but instead went where they spawned. But they were better tuned in the Southern Front.

However, my biggest gripe is, always with the FATE trains. Eureka was supposed to be a throw back to classic MMO titles and like FFXI and introduce its style of endgame with Notorious Monsters in an open area map, what we got as: glorified FATE trains. Bozja was supposed to be an improvement and lessons learned from Eureka and delve deeper into that kind of content, what we got: glorified FATE trains that are at least broken up be CE's. CE's I think make the experience closer to what I'd expect of FFXIV inspired endgame content that's tuned to how FFXIV. But FATE trains aren't engaging or interesting content. And for something that's supposed to be different I'd not expect it here, but outside of it maybe.

But there are things they've done right in this respect, I like the lost actions, I like Castrum, I like Delubrum up until people start getting Doom, I like Critical Engagements, I like the concept. And I like that it's less grindy than Eureka and I don't have to suffer through 2 zones of Eureka content I hate to get to the enjoyable parts.

I just wish most of my experience wasn't running around doing FATEs, I got tired of that for levelling back in 2.0.

You're right, but it's not even a FATE train now. It's everyone just rushing from point to point wasting all the potential mettle that everyone can get. The worst offenders are the ones who continue killing FATEs while everyone is stuck in a critical engagement.

[TW-Luna]

You're right, but it's not even a FATE train now. It's everyone just rushing from point to point wasting all the potential mettle that everyone can get. The worst offenders are the ones who continue killing FATEs while everyone is stuck in a critical engagement.

What the heck are people who didn't get into the CE supposed to do? They're not allowed to gain any mettle cause you're doing something else?

[Venandi]

What the heck are people who didn't get into the CE supposed to do? They're not allowed to gain any mettle cause you're doing something else?

Chill, they can wait for 4 or 5 minutes so more people can get the mettle from the FATE

[Vahlnir]

Chill, they can wait for 4 or 5 minutes so more people can get the mettle from the FATE

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