Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[PurinSato]

It makes sense but for lore reasons only. They could have done something similar to Asari from mass effect or the gerudo from zelda. If you make a child with a Viera you are 100% sure to get a female Viera child (maybe with some "unique traits" depending on the father). Hrothgar could have been the same.
But if you don't care about thoose types of lore, yeah it sucks.

Oh I don't play with male characters, so I would be fine without bunny boys.
But I do understand that the contrary happens, people who only play male and want to be a bunny so...

But if we go with the lore, cat boys wouldn't exist in the game either tho

[Juzjuzz]

Oh I don't play with male characters, so I would be fine without bunny boys.
But I do understand that the contrary happens, people who only play male and want to be a bunny so...

But if we go with the lore, cat boys wouldn't exist in the game either tho

Yeah it sucks for some players haha but i'm not against gender locked races. I was fine with just female viera tbh.

Because of the Mithra right ? I wasn't there when catboys didn't exist but i think i could have just created a Hyur even if it's a bit boring. If i'm going to ffXI i'm playing Hume and nothing else if i want a male haha. Many games with other races like mass effect lets you play human only, i had fun with that.

I think the main problem is when one gender just looks better than the other. In FFXI Mithra look fine imo, close to female Hume but you won't like Galka if you don't like looking like Hulk.

[Halivel]

Yeah it sucks for some players haha but i'm not against gender locked races. I was fine with just female viera tbh.

Because of the Mithra right ? I wasn't there when catboys didn't exist but i think i could have just created a Hyur even if it's a bit boring. If i'm going to ffXI i'm playing Hume and nothing else if i want a male haha.

Miqo'te (female only), Roegadyns (male only) and Highlanders (male only) used to be genderlocked in 1.0, so in FF14 already. They were released as complete races in 2.0 due to community feedback.

Ironically enough, just like with Viera and Hrothgar, there was the very same gang of people "but muh lore", "we don't need eye candy", "they better spend resources on something more useful" and all the other arguments against "missing genders" release that were said during last two years about possible Male Viera and Female Hrothgars. History pretty much repeated itself. The only difference is that community is far bigger now, so this time the outcry was also far louder.

[Juzjuzz]

Miqo'te (female only), Roegadyns (male only) and Highlanders (male only) used to be genderlocked in 1.0, so in FF14 already. They were released as complete races in 2.0 due to community feedback.

Ironically enough, just like with Viera and Hrothgar, there was the very same gang of people "but muh lore", "we don't need eye candy", "they better spend resources on something more useful" and all the other arguments against "missing genders" release that were said during last two years about possible Male Viera and Female Hrothgars. History pretty much repeated itself. The only difference is that community is far bigger now, so this time the outcry was also far louder.

True but i still think genderlocking for lore is fine as long a the race is created to live like that. If it's just "the other gender is there but they are just rare/hidden/somewere else", ppl will ask for it. Ofc making too mutch genderlocked races is a bad idea and i think it's better if you guive them a look that will pleace a specific niche if you want them to be rare.

But the best option is to stop with the rarity/genderlocking of playable races in the lore. You can do that with beast races aniway. Otherwise you have to know how the players will react to it.

[SturmChurro]

Oh I don't play with male characters, so I would be fine without bunny boys.
But I do understand that the contrary happens, people who only play male and want to be a bunny so...

But if we go with the lore, cat boys wouldn't exist in the game either tho

I would have been perfectly fine without male viera. I would have liked to have been able to play my veena AND look forward to seasonal events, AND hairstyle rewards. They probably created like another eight hairstyles for male viera, female viera could have had one or two, I'd say. Female hroth will be lovely, because if they look like furry femroe, relatively only like two people will play them, and that's yet another race they have to maintain.

[Awha]

I would have been perfectly fine without male viera. I would have liked to have been able to play my veena AND look forward to seasonal events, AND hairstyle rewards. They probably created like another eight hairstyles for male viera, female viera could have had one or two, I'd say. Female hroth will be lovely, because if they look like furry femroe, relatively only like two people will play them, and that's yet another race they have to maintain.

I agree it seems weird to me to add more to the workload so to speak. Fix what you have then move on, just adding more is a quick way to burn out your staff, unless they are just going to port the male hairs over to female, and vise versa. Even then it still seems silly to me focus on one thing a at time if you cite work load as one of the issues as to why they are “limited” in the first place.

[LuciaMirain]

I agree it seems weird to me to add more to the workload so to speak. Fix what you have then move on, just adding more is a quick way to burn out your staff, unless they are just going to port the male hairs over to female, and vise versa. Even then it still seems silly to me focus on one thing a at time if you cite work load as one of the issues as to why they are “limited” in the first place.

I actually dont think they will port over the male hairs to females....which is sad.

[Akimori]

I would have been perfectly fine without male viera. I would have liked to have been able to play my veena AND look forward to seasonal events, AND hairstyle rewards. They probably created like another eight hairstyles for male viera, female viera could have had one or two, I'd say. Female hroth will be lovely, because if they look like furry femroe, relatively only like two people will play them, and that's yet another race they have to maintain.

You should see this one twitter artist's renditions of Fem Hroth...they are BEAUTIFUL T_T

fan rendition of the *REAL*& Queen Gunnhildr


please make hrothgirls look like actual female animals and not that digusting trope of giving them the animal face, but human eyes and lips


ew ew ew ew ew

[Iscah]

I would have been perfectly fine without male viera. I would have liked to have been able to play my veena AND look forward to seasonal events, AND hairstyle rewards.

I really think it can't be that simple. There's no reason for them to withhold purchased Mog Station hairstyles and other new styles if modifying them is a straightforward business and they go to the effort for Miqo'te.

Surely it must be something in how the data is stored and accessed rather than just that the models won't work and can't be adapted. And if it is, then it's a problem that will persist even if they add new Viera-specific styles.

[Akimori]

I really think it can't be that simple. There's no reason for them to withhold purchased Mog Station hairstyles and other new styles if modifying them is a straightforward business and they go to the effort for Miqo'te.

Surely it must be something in how the data is stored and accessed rather than just that the models won't work and can't be adapted. And if it is, then it's a problem that will persist even if they add new Viera-specific styles.

I believe they mentioned along the way its because of how Viera heads are modeled...like they modeled it in a different way compared to the other heads in the game which doesn't really play that well with the system they have for implementing hats and hairs (which is what we can all reasonable conclude is the reason for the major graphics engine upgrade/overhaul that is coming....whenever)

You know what else I was thinking. Inbefore vieras and hrothgars get more hairstyles we will probably see more hairstyles added to the other races......

I believe that 100% because thats whats been happening already T_T