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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    Does it really matter so long as the healer do a good job of keeping everyone alive?
    If they're overhealing too much, it's not a good job
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    Hikari Youko
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    If they're overhealing too much, it's not a good job
    I meant in the end if everybody is alive and no one dies throughout the whole fight, then it's really not a big deal because as a Healer, that what counts the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    I meant in the end if everybody is alive and no one dies throughout the whole fight, then it's really not a big deal because as a Healer, that what counts the most.
    It's still bad though, it's like a DPS only ever pressing one damage button is doing their job. They're technically doing their job, but lazily and horribly.
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    Komari Mono
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    It's still bad though, it's like a DPS only ever pressing one damage button is doing their job. They're technically doing their job, but lazily and horribly.
    Well, I wouldn't agree with that. If the healer is still new and learning, and everyone's alive and they just healed, I'd count that as a good sign. Comparing to DPS, who have to follow rotations and position placement, isn't very fair. I'm sure once they learn their class more, and progress into harder content as they see fit, they will learn when to heal and what to use, then start doing damage, as they heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Well, I wouldn't agree with that. If the healer is still new and learning, and everyone's alive and they just healed, I'd count that as a good sign. Comparing to DPS, who have to follow rotations and position placement, isn't very fair. I'm sure once they learn their class more, and progress into harder content as they see fit, they will learn when to heal and what to use, then start doing damage, as they heal.
    DPS have to go through a learning phase too, they need to figure out how to do their rotation like a healer has to figure out when to heal and with what.
    If someone is grossly overhealing, the job wasn't learned well and cannot be called good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Well, I wouldn't agree with that. If the healer is still new and learning, and everyone's alive and they just healed, I'd count that as a good sign.
    There's a difference between new, still learning and doing your best and being max level, ignoring huge chunks of your toolkit and sitting around twiddling your thumbs because "eh, it's only my job to heal". A surprisingly large number of healers fall into the second category. Because it's possible to clear many fights doing nothing but spamming Medica II and throwing out an occasional Raise, that's all they bother with.
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylogen1337 View Post
    if the shield did not prevent a death, it is a wasted shield. and most content just doesn't have enough damage on their aoes/tbs to do just that
    Not true. The scholar doesn't have clutch heals. The shields are supposed to keep the amount of incoming damage manageable so the scholar can keep the party up without difficulty.
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Not true. The scholar doesn't have clutch heals. The shields are supposed to keep the amount of incoming damage manageable so the scholar can keep the party up without difficulty.
    Not really. Like the damage in this game is completely predictable and there's only very few mechanics that require you to be super topped off and none of that are in normal content so....
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    Catnip Meowster
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Not true. The scholar doesn't have clutch heals. The shields are supposed to keep the amount of incoming damage manageable so the scholar can keep the party up without difficulty.
    Sorry but you are wrong. The person you quoted is 100% correct, shield healing is useless unless the damage kills you
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    I meant in the end if everybody is alive and no one dies throughout the whole fight, then it's really not a big deal because as a Healer, that what counts the most.
    You can play good as a healer and still have lots of dps die. Healers are not really designed for correcting a lot of bad play. Once the dps burns through all your resources you will be left with your baby heals and that's just not worth casting. They will die regardless and resurrecting them costs 2400 MP. If this is the 2nd time they are getting resurrected and you don't have swiftcast, you are better of spamming glare. Rezzing them is a dps loss for the party. They will get up die again and say in chat "Got rezzed in mechanic xD". When someone is rezzed they obtain the transcendence status for 4-5 seconds, you are basically invulnerable to any incoming damage as long as you don't use any actions. The last priority of a dps that got ressed for the 2nd time is to deal dps while on 10% hp. They should make sure that they stay alive for till the -50% dmg buff wears off. And the least they can do is give enough time for the healers to top them instead of striking the moment they get raised only to eat another aoe and die again.
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    Last edited by Roeshel; 05-31-2021 at 07:51 PM.