Is there a reason SE is not trying to future proof content AT ALL?

[KizuyaKatogami]

Also, if you wanna make it last longer try doing the whole relic pieces in there, but I bet you farmed the raids instead.

Why should someone do something at an objectively slower rate just to make content which should last long already...last longer? That’s a pure waste of time lmao. Raids shouldn’t even be the most optimal route for relics it should be, yknow, the actual relic zone they’re themed after. As for them completing Zadnor in a day i believe it. I got to 25, did the raid, got all but one field note in a day. It’s rushed content. This is very obvious after seeing the relic designs and how they resolved 90% of the storyline offscreen.

[Kiurai]

Why should someone do something at an objectively slower rate just to make content which should last long already...last longer? That’s a pure waste of time lmao. Raids shouldn’t even be the most optimal route for relics it should be, yknow, the actual relic zone they’re themed after. As for them completing Zadnor in a day i believe it. I got to 25, did the raid, got all but one field note in a day. It’s rushed content. This is very obvious after seeing the relic designs and how they resolved 90% of the storyline offscreen.

I disagree with the rushed assessment since all your basing it off is subjective opinion on the relic design and the fact that they resolved some plot points off screen (hardly a first for this game)

[Lauront]

Yes you can. It's up to you to decide whether or not a stack of pixels called a 'house' is important enough to pay for on it's own.

Knowing how the housing system in this game function, it does work against their claim of just unsub whenever you like. Yes, the decision is down to the player but it nonetheless does mean something rather fickle and tricky to acquire in this game will go if you don't sub at a sufficient frequency.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I disagree with the rushed assessment since all your basing it off is subjective opinion on the relic design and the fact that they resolved some plot points off screen (hardly a first for this game)

You’re free to believe that. But between the seemingly rushed Zadnor content and then lines missing from msq that were in the trailer, no scion outfit etc, it certainly seems like this entire patch has been rushed af.

[Bigmoose85]

Yeah, though to be fair it isn't really a viable option for those of us who own a house and do not wish to lose it - thus we avoid taking a break.

That's where they got people. Force them to say subbed or lose your house.

[Tlamila]

Why should someone do something at an objectively slower rate just to make content which should last long already...last longer?

Because they're the ones complaining it's not taking long enough.
Why should they make the content grindier and longer for everybody just because a bunch of bored people want more grind to fill their time?

[ICountFrom0]

So, Spending one session per day in Zadnor (letting the timer count down to below 30 before leaving) I just yesterday got my first 3 hero tokens.

I've not yet pulled the relic out of it either. So I've got more to do.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Because they're the ones complaining it's not taking long enough.
Why should they make the content grindier and longer for everybody just because a bunch of bored people want more grind to fill their time?

It doesn’t need to be “grindier”. They can have content be expanded and less monotonous and still enjoyable. All these relic quests this expansion have been specifically to take more time for no reason. Re-running old raids and trials and that being the more optimal route than the actual relic zone. If they instead, would make the relic zone content more elaborate and enjoyable and less of just a grind and more options, then that would help settle to be a healthy medium. Not too long but not too short and wouldn’t consist of just running the same thing over and over for days on end.

[KaerisKlyne]

At no point have we ever or will we ever have complete transparency on the data the team has used to make these decisions.

Bozja itself is no more or less grindy than any relic that has come before. I've done at least one every expac. If anything, putting a healthy population into older content and maps, stuff that's now likely being experienced more by new players onboarded from the expanded free trial and getting into Stormblood, is a smart choice for a business that benefits from content feeling easily accessible and active. Nad Bozja itself doubles as a pretty effective leveling experience, according to some of my FC.

My DPS queues for alliances have been healer levels of instant. Those old raids and overworld zones are full of chatter and excitement and friendly socializing. It has higher level players whose glamours and gear upon examining might get those new players even more hype about staying subbed.

I think someone previously also made the point that being encouraged to unsub and take breaks kills statics and guilds and ??? no, we have so many ways of communicating and staying in touch out of game, I'm in contact with my static and FC members daily and much more out of game than I ever am while logged in.