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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    This sentence honestly makes me wonder if this is a troll thread. If it's not OP, I think you may have missed a story point or two.
    I know she became one during the story, but my impression is that after she came back with the most recent weekly quest (ending) she turned back to normal. At least her personality turned back to normal, simply Konogg's sister again, even if she remained part robot. That's how I saw it though; if I'm wrong it's worth discussing. It's better to discuss it than to call names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I know she became one during the story, but my impression is that after she came back with the most recent weekly quest (ending) she turned back to normal. At least her personality turned back to normal, simply Konogg's sister again, even if she remained part robot. That's how I saw it though; if I'm wrong it's worth discussing. It's better to discuss it than to call names.
    Anogg died. She got crushed by that sphere. Some...form...of her (who the hell knows, it's not like this storyline explains anything) is who we interacted with and, I dunno, returned to the sphere when it went bye bye or something?

    Nobody really knows what was going on with that ending. It still could have been a dying hallucination of Konogg or something, who knows. Maybe he threw himself into the sea so that's why there is no body.

    It seems you didn't mean it to be, but given how much negative feedback the story has gotten about the same points you're praising, your post seemed full of sarcasm. We've had a lot of troll threads like that lately so it's hard to tell anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Anogg died. She got crushed by that sphere. Some...form...of her (who the hell knows, it's not like this storyline explains anything) is who we interacted with and, I dunno, returned to the sphere when it went bye bye or something?

    Nobody really knows what was going on with that ending. It still could have been a dying hallucination of Konogg or something, who knows. Maybe he threw himself into the sea so that's why there is no body.

    It seems you didn't mean it to be, but given how much negative feedback the story has gotten about the same points you're praising, your post seemed full of sarcasm. We've had a lot of troll threads like that lately so it's hard to tell anymore.
    1. Anogg didn't die. When Konogg was staring at the white orb during our echo flashback that was where the "Anogg Fascimile (copy)" came out of. When we destroyed the orb the real Anogg was freed; but she gained automata powers by having been made part of the white orb when it fell on her. It's very important to look at the distinction between Anogg Fascimile and the real one. Furthermore, notice how in her letter to Konogg after the Tower raid she wrote about how she's been to other worlds; that implies that the Fascimile he saw wasn't the same one we saw during 5.5. She was exploring the other worlds (the white orb is a portal between worlds), why would an android version of her write to Konogg about having seen the other worlds?

    2. I strongly feel like what we saw recently with patch 5.55 was not a hallucination; if it was, his body would be there. If he died somewhere else why would the memory of them meeting again be at the shack and not where he jumped off/died? People are trying to read too deeply into Konogg's breakdown; he was recently commissioned to build a dwarf automata, his body wasn't there, he walked away with the real Anogg. When we closed the orb's portal in the Tower 2B and 9S disappeared, because as they explained; as long they remain in Norvrandt the portal can't be closed. That being the case there's no way Anogg could come back to Norvrandt if she was the Fascimile/Android copy of her. What came back to Konogg was the real Anogg; and she explained to him she's a genius.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Oh man, the first two posts in this thread are satirical gold, or at the very least, silver. Amnmaat didn't give a tell like ItMe.

    It's like reading a quality transcription of Bizarro Superman's speech.
    You had to go straight to Ad hominen and then straight to name calling.
    Unlike you, I will try to engage you in a civilized way; what about the post do you find at fault? Or that you can refute? I'd be open to changing my take on the Nier story within the crossover. Most likely you're projecting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    I mean, I'll certainly agree that the Dwarves were the highlight of the whole thing in terms of writing. At least up until the point where Glagg had half a dozen nervous breakdowns over the course of six weeks' worth of fetch quests before suddenly... uh, whatever happened to make him stop doing that.

    It's also been a nice collection of glamour sets, music, and boss fights. But the rest of the writing, and the very crossover itself? I don't say this kind of thing often, but I feel it was a waste of the developers' resources and time.
    The whole Glagg and Anogg/Konogg situation tells me we're getting another quest somewhere down the road. But I'll attempt to explain my theory behind Glagg. What most likely happened with him is that a clone of him was made during the whole white orb cloning fiasco, and the real Glagg was brought back by Anogg herself. To further this, I'm thinking that 2P captured Glagg and made a clone of him to stop the dwarves and 2B from stopping her plans. Remember, when you're put into the white orb you're put into a portal. At the same time that Anogg came back the real Glagg came back as well. The timing lines up.

    I understand that people wanted a story that wasn't like a puzzle, but aren't the Nier games a whole big puzzle? It takes these sorts of analysis, study, and putting the pieces together to really understand the events of those games. I will admit that it doesn't fit the FFXIV story-telling style though, that's where I feel the core of the problem lies.
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