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  1. #21
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    It was terrible. Completely disjointed from the XIV style and lore, made no sense and ended with a head bang on a wall.
    I wish we could stop the silly crossovers already and return back to the XIV lore and style.
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    Apparently YOKO TARO wanted it to be impossible -we can never beat it- hard or something.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    this is what we got instead of allied tribe quest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    this is what we got instead of allied tribe quest
    Any source on that statement?
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Any source on that statement?
    we are not getting ShB allied beast tribes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    we are not getting ShB allied beast tribes
    But is it because of Yorha?
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    But is it because of Yorha?
    Whether we can directly blame YoRHa for the loss of the allied beast tribe quest or not, it's undeniable that in a year where resources have been stretched thin and regular scheduled content has been cut, this alliance raid has had not just the regular three chapters but two interludes, weekly quests and now an epilogue.

    Somewhere, whether by choice or by obligation after signing up to host the crossover, they have had to spend resources on this instead of something and haven't gotten much return for the investment.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That is prettymuch my thoughts on it too, with a side of "you should already know who these characters are, so we don't need to make any effort to show you anything of their personalities or make you care about them".
    The entire "story" screamed of shamelessly plugging another game. "If you want answers, please purchase Nier! Which conveniently happens to be releasing a sequel rather soon!" If this occupied a series of small side quests, I'd be far less bothered. But to take the slot of Shadowbringers' 24 man series and deliver essentially bad fan fiction feels like nobody in charge cared. Bit ironic since if the intention was to advertise Nier, this did precisely the opposite for me. I have even less interest in the series now, especially since it almost feels like we were intentionally trolled with the six week delay that accomplished absolutely nothing but drag out a poorly written "story".
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    we are not getting ShB allied beast tribes
    We lost Inspector Hildibrand quests too .................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Somewhere, whether by choice or by obligation after signing up to host the crossover, they have had to spend resources on this instead of something and haven't gotten much return for the investment.
    I think the return in investment is they get to focus on Garlean-related stories, not just in the MSQ, but also in the trial series and the relic series leading up to Endwalker while leaving the alliance raid series to outside sources for its story and the normal raid series being the only non-collaborative side story they focused on for the First. And I think Yoshida has said he picked his collaborations for fun, where he just wanted to work with someone.

    In the end, I don't think the weekly quests were necessary as a lead in to the ending (though I can understand if it's meant to convey a passage of time), but when it's all said and done, it's just another raid series added to the roulette and whether people like it or not, we'll be moving on to the next one, as always.

    Also, I don't have any thought on whether this was supposed to be an advertisement for the Nier games as I never went into this thinking I would need to know Nier to enjoy it, and I still don't think that's the case, having finished it.
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