Which healer to use until Endwalker and Sage?

[IceBlueNinja]

lol suppose sch is inferior to like noct ast is too. shields are inferior overall get rid of them and make all jobs regen only smh. Love how noct so inferior yet it shield better compared to sch in many ways. Ah well the day a regen with full hp saves me from 1 hits vs a shield can(with that aside) shields can allow you to somewhat have a second chance or more make up something you slip up on since no one is perfect and mistakes can happen, and not die if your new and pogging stuff to let you know how to avoid such mech another time. Ah old arr content mini ilvl no echo where shields was much needed. Play what you want friend noct just as good at dirunal specially at 72 and up where you still get regens as u would get shields both is balanced. Mm cant wait to see the new sage vs sch battle royal on whos the better migi like old noct ast vs sch oh and you dont need to spam helios. I am trying to (state not say) if its in a case something is going bad example co healer down whw/di ast partner and boss about to do a another big aoe after his/her first you can light speed using one asp helio then the regular helios to patch up team in noct effectively or in 80 and up situation neutral that gives regens too. not saying to spam asp helios like your crazy when its not needed but ofc those who naturally wanna start things assume I was saying to literally to spam vs if it gets to be that oh snap situation where you have to.

[IceBlueNinja]

It's worth giving them all a try, it would give you a good opportunity to learn more about each individual skillset and how they function in a full-party+ setting.


Deployment Tactics is far stronger with Adloqium because the potency is much higher than succor.
Seraph's AOE applies an Adloqium strength shield on everyone in range and can be applied twice during the ~20s summoning window, their single target spamable one is weaker though.
Basically everything is better than having to cast succor, including Sacred Soil.

Ah I see, whew though ast is claim the most tactical and busiest it seem easier to me than sch, I kudos you cause the resource management thing with sch is just not my cup of tea, so I respect you or my friends playing this job, its like how I do rdm over blm even though I know of a power house blm is but the movement and management is tough heh. Thanks for that info on seraph alqo thing ill give this a try as

[Rilifane]

I think it would be best to play more than one.
I don't think playing a shield healer will do all that much as preperation because shields are pretty much an afterthought in this game and nothing a healer truly relies on like in other games where shields are by far the most mana and time efficient while direct heals fall short and are expensive emergency heals or where regens are more like a weak but steady baseline healing.
We'll also hopefully finally get a big overhaul on all healers which means getting too comfortable to the point of being stuck in a certain playstyle will do more harm than good. But even though an overhaul is probably coming, playing different healers to get a general feel for what they can and can't do aswell right now aswell as their unique "rhythm" will help you become a much better healer.
For DF content it won't really matter that much but if you want to get a more in-depths feeling for it, at least leveling all of them with lots of DF is the way to go. You have plenty of time until EW.
SCH and AST have an equally expansive toolkit but they use it very differently. AST can simply keep oGCDs rolling without a downside while many SCH oGCDs are tied to AF as an additional resource. WHM has a very barebone toolkit and it relies on making the most of your limited resources and doing things in the right order to not waste potency and mobility.
Playing one healer (Sage in your case come EW) well is only half of being a good healer, having an understanding for all of them is the other half. And nothing teaches the latter like personal experience.

[AC9Breaker]

Try Paladin.

[Radacci]

I do have all the casters at 80 and I have Sch at 80 with Whm at 77 and Ast at 70.

Why are you asking which to play, when you already have SCH at 80? pretty sure you know how they play.
I'm guessing that's what you liked most since it's ahead of the others.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Oh god please, not here too... /facepalm
Ahem... anyway...

Try Paladin.

I'm dead reading this Should've been WAR though!

Fun aside...
My suggestion is: just play all three healers as you see fit. Considering the trend of overall class changes that has been happening every expansion release, it's kinda redundant to expect 100% of current system to carry over to Endwalker, something's bound to change and who knows what it would be and how large the adjustment we have to make.

Playing all three teaches us more than just being good with our chosen class; it also gives us a hindsight of how our co-healer will handle each damage and ultimately avoiding wasting each other's resources. It tells us the strength and weaknesses of said healers, allowing us to make better decision of how to cover each other's mistakes.

But most importantly, do enjoy what you're choosing to play.

[ty_taurus]

lol suppose sch is inferior to like noct ast is too. shields are inferior overall get rid of them and make all jobs regen only smh. Love how noct so inferior yet it shield better compared to sch in many ways. Ah well the day a regen with full hp saves me from 1 hits vs a shield can(with that aside) shields can allow you to somewhat have a second chance or more make up something you slip up on since no one is perfect and mistakes can happen, and not die if your new and pogging stuff to let you know how to avoid such mech another time. Ah old arr content mini ilvl no echo where shields was much needed. Play what you want friend noct just as good at dirunal specially at 72 and up where you still get regens as u would get shields both is balanced. Mm cant wait to see the new sage vs sch battle royal on whos the better migi like old noct ast vs sch oh and you dont need to spam helios. I am trying to (state not say) if its in a case something is going bad example co healer down whw/di ast partner and boss about to do a another big aoe after his/her first you can light speed using one asp helio then the regular helios to patch up team in noct effectively or in 80 and up situation neutral that gives regens too. not saying to spam asp helios like your crazy when its not needed but ofc those who naturally wanna start things assume I was saying to literally to spam vs if it gets to be that oh snap situation where you have to.

I feel like I'm getting Deja vu from this post. I wonder why... >.>

We've been over this before. There's nothing wrong with barriers on a conceptual level, and there are plenty of opportunities in design for them to become important and powerful tools, but that is just not how Square has handled them in this expansion. Sure, a regen isn't going to save you from a theoretical 1-shot, but name a single instance of a true-to-its-name 1-shot in any relevant content that can only be survived with a barrier. Or name a single instance where tanks are heavily pressured on defensive cooldowns and require a barrier healer to help them mitigate through a series of would-be 1-shots that they need to consecutively mitigate.

Until they either create tank busters that are designed to require a healer's barrier to survive, or there's some kind of incentive to barriers like with DRK's Blackest Night, they're just simply a different shade of heal that costs you a GCD to use unless you're WHM. Honestly, Divine Benison is the best barrier by far for that reason alone.

And again, I want to emphasize that this is entirely possible for Square to do. Most of us desperately want them to do this too. I would gladly get on my hands and knees and beg Yoshi-P to make barriers unique and interesting (among other things), if I knew that this would actually inspire change for the healers.

[Rilifane]

I'm dead reading this Should've been WAR though!

I'm dead serious when I say that I had a few WAR outheal me in expert/ 80 on WHM
So WAR sounds like a good choice for healer.

[Semirhage]

I'm dead serious when I say that I had a few WAR outheal me in expert/ 80 on WHM
So WAR sounds like a good choice for healer.

I did Pagalth'an on WHM last week with a WAR. I legitimately thought I was having a stroke and wondered if I'd hit Benediction without realizing it. It wasn't on cooldown. The WAR just healed himself from near-dead to full in about half a second with no assistance from me. (yes I was going to bene in another half second, I wasn't about to let him die)

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I did Pagalth'an on WHM last week with a WAR. I legitimately thought I was having a stroke and wondered if I'd hit Benediction without realizing it. It wasn't on cooldown. The WAR just healed himself from near-dead to full in about half a second with no assistance from me. (yes I was going to bene in another half second, I wasn't about to let him die)

I tried to pull this off but my pug healer would always keep me above 80% for that matter "Lemme be green tank reeee"