A question about Trusts...

[Iscah]

imagine a new player that just got to endwalker's endgame. They'd have to level y'shtola all the way from level 71 if they want to do a lv 90 dungeon with trusts...

Only if they want to do it repeatedly. Trusts are always available for MSQ clearance regardless of the avatar's level.

If they cared about not making us slog through levelling trusts the slow way, they'd let us access scenario mode any time we wanted to even if we hadn't finished levelling up. Having that locked behind getting everyone to 80 is disappointing.

[Derio]

She probably wont be a choosable trust until after you have run the dungeon the first time.

[_Koneko_]

To be honest i'm pretty sure ryne will come to the source they put to much effort into her to abandon her on the first

[Jennah]

I'm more concerned about whether all my level 71 trust people will auto-level to 80 or not.
Or - even better - if they just remove the asinine XP requirement altogether.
I mean, trusts *ALREADY* take double the time of a real dungeon run; why are they punishing us further?

[SomeRandomHuman]

I'm more concerned about whether all my level 71 trust people will auto-level to 80 or not.
Or - even better - if they just remove the asinine XP requirement altogether.
I mean, trusts *ALREADY* take double the time of a real dungeon run; why are they punishing us further?

You'll be able to clear MSQ dungeons at least once with them for progression sake.

My theory is going in 6.0 that you'll have to pair thancred with Urianger instead of alphinaud for him to do the cartridge combo since MSQ relevant reasons.

There were 2 cardinal rules with trusts: Always pair thancred with rhyne and NEVER use Alphinaud and Alisae in the same party if you can. Alphi will always prioritize Alisae over anything and everything. Rhyne also enables Thancred to do the cartridge combo.

I personally felt that trusts didn't take much longer to clear if you know some of the easter eggs like the above. Y'shtola is the only trust that AoEs fairly consistently. Not to mention her foul is just flat-out OP for bursting something down.

[Brynne]

I'm also curious if we're going to be able to level Ryne from 80 to 90 or if she'll just cap at 80 and we get Estinien starting at level 80 after msq is finished in EW.

[Mirhd]

You'll be able to clear MSQ dungeons at least once with them for progression sake.

My theory is going in 6.0 that you'll have to pair thancred with Urianger instead of alphinaud for him to do the cartridge combo since MSQ relevant reasons.

There were 2 cardinal rules with trusts: Always pair thancred with rhyne and NEVER use Alphinaud and Alisae in the same party if you can. Alphi will always prioritize Alisae over anything and everything. Rhyne also enables Thancred to do the cartridge combo.

I personally felt that trusts didn't take much longer to clear if you know some of the easter eggs like the above. Y'shtola is the only trust that AoEs fairly consistently. Not to mention her foul is just flat-out OP for bursting something down.

As someone who leveled every trust character to 80, I mixed and matched them plenty without issue. While the cartridge thing is a nice touch ("Ryne, the cartridges!" *BOOM*), it's hardly game breaking if you don't bring her. From a story stand point it doesn't really matter either, as all the main Scions are capable of easily manipulating aether and can enchant Thancreds' ammo for him. I mean... Y'shtola gave him ammo she just enchanted in the last (or second to last? don't recall) Memories in Crystal cutscene, so there's no reason it has to be Urianger.

I also had no issue leveling the twins together, and honestly, a lot of their dialog together made me smile; their exchange after the plant boss in The Grand Cosmos is adorable.

[SomeRandomHuman]

From a story stand point it doesn't really matter either, as all the main Scions are capable of easily manipulating aether and can enchant Thancreds' ammo for him. I mean... Y'shtola gave him ammo she just enchanted in the last (or second to last? don't recall) Memories in Crystal cutscene, so there's no reason it has to be Urianger.

Urianger went with thancred to garlemald specifically because thancred is unable to make his own cartridges. Rhyne always did it because Thancred was always with rhyne. So yes, it is true anyone CAN do it, I think the game may give that little easter egg to urianger in 6.x because of the MSQ dialogue.

[Katie_Kitty]

It's gonna be so silly if Ryne is a trust in EW dungeons without actually being present on the source at all.

[Mirhd]

Urianger went with thancred to garlemald specifically because thancred is unable to make his own cartridges. Rhyne always did it because Thancred was always with rhyne. So yes, it is true anyone CAN do it, I think the game may give that little easter egg to urianger in 6.x because of the MSQ dialogue.

I'm aware. Also, it was more of a "I'm going regardless and you can't stop me, nyah nyah" thing on Uriangers' part, as Thancred was intending to go alone, but Urianger insisted. I mean, he was right in that it made more sense to accompany him; I just thought it was funny how putout Thancred was.

Mostly, I just found your "cardinal rule" comment a bit odd. :P