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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    People who just run content unsync'd clearly don't care about all the hard work and effort the developers put into the savage fights. For example take a look at that disgusting "good bye world" strat for o12s. Players would rather die than do the mechanic properly and it's not even that hard!
    As I said before, the more you troll regarding difficult content, the less seriously people will take you when you bring up valid concerns regarding that content. You're only going to end up influencing forum opinion to be against challenge and difficulty. That's not the sort of feedback you want the devs to see.

    Let casual players have their old Savage fights. It's done and over, no one cares about Alex or Omega anymore. If you trickle the rewards down to the playerbase once they're no longer relevant accomplishments, it still keeps them happy and the developers have reason to continue developing that content because they get good long term value from those resources. Keep the focus on current content.
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  2. #32
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    As always, an excellent suggestion, other me.

    Unsyncing content encourages casuals to be lazy. They're not doing the first two tiers of this expansion because they're just waiting for it to be unsynced now. People still put the work for old ultimates because they know there's no easy way out.

    You have my axe.

    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Either that or please start adding unskippable mechanics like Light Rampant
    We should spread the gospel of Ilya to casuals as well. I heard there's a section about ultimate predation now.
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    Last edited by WoW; 05-22-2021 at 10:11 PM.

  3. #33
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    can we move to make troll posts a 30 day forum vacation instead but i guess then op would be in a constant time out
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Koneko_ View Post
    can we move to make troll posts a 30 day forum vacation instead but i guess then op would be in a constant time out
    What's the downside?
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  5. #35
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    Thea Sitori
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    I've always advocated they should stop letting savages become unsync, because they already add echo and no ilvl restrictions so there is gear inflation. Case in-point people still do Eden's Gate Savage in PF because they want BiS gear for TEA. Titan Savage you can pretty much skip the last phases with current gear so as long as you scrape by o2y3, you're golden.

    Sharigan light rampant strat makes Shiva Savage pretty straightforward, I think what tripped up a lot of groups early one was the lame Ilya strat though, I just call it the bowtie strat and if you are too braindead to visualize that in your head and put that on the field, well savage isn't for you.
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    If it's old content people are usually doing it for glamour, weapons for alt-jobs or are actual new to the content but just want to breeze through it to get extra story bits from the cutscenes in Savage.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    If it's old content people are usually doing it for glamour, weapons for alt-jobs or are actual new to the content but just want to breeze through it to get extra story bits from the cutscenes in Savage.
    I'm a firm believer of if you want the shiny things do the blooming content. Unsync in general was a terrible idea as it destroys the value of the shiny things...

    Whats worse is the sheer hypocrisy by the devs... On one hand they say "The shiny things have no value and should be available to everyone..."

    But the exact same devs then turn around and say "the shiny things are exclusive and giving them out to everyone destroys there's value " *COUGHS* PVP gear and Ultimate stuff.

    Pick one and stick with it. If they have no significance or value then dish out the PVP and Ultimate stuff the same way you dish out everything else.

    If they do have significance and value then stop dishing stuff out everything via unsynced and roflstomp modes or other handouts.

    Want the shiny? Do the content properly.

    Simple.

    Perhaps then people would be less bored because they'd have more stuff to actually do...
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    Last edited by Dzian; 05-23-2021 at 03:01 AM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I'm a firm believer of it you want the shiny things do the blooming content. Unsync in general was a terrible idea as it destroys the value of the shiny things...


    Whats worse is the sheer hypocrisy by the devs... on the one hand they say the shiny things have no value and should be available to everyone...

    But the same devs then turn around and say the shiny things are exclusive and giving them out to everyone destroys there's value cough pvp gear and ultimate stuff.

    Pick one and stick with it. If they have no significance or value then dish out the pvp and ultimate stuff.. the same way you dish out everything else.

    If they do have significance and value then stop dishing stuff out everything via unsynced and rollstomp modes ..

    Want the shiny. Do the content properly.

    Simple.

    Perhaps then people would be less bored because they'd have more stuff to actually do...
    There are currently 6 different groups advertising RMT runs of content on Crystal DC alone, if you think that anything is exclusive to people actually doing the content properly your living in a delusion at this point. All you do is help these groups more by removing level sync.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    There are currently 6 different groups advertising RMT runs of content on Crystal DC alone, if you think that anything is exclusive to people actually doing the content properly your living in a delusion at this point. All you do is help these groups more by removing level sync.
    To be honest I see that s a completely different problem.. SE's complete lack of policing and enforcement of the ToS / rules.
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    Matoya Rhul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    To be honest I see that s a completely different problem.. SE's complete lack of policing and enforcement of the ToS / rules.
    if they enforced it this pro parsers would be perma banned alas yoshi p seems content to spout how his against parsers but does nothing to enforce the rules this game could use a anti cheat
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