[Critical] Male Viera height slider; tall option. Show your support.

[Komarimono]

I don't particularly care about their height either, but I do care about someone saying "all lore points to X" while linking a comprehensive lore post that makes no mention of X.

If there are dozens of links you can post, post them - or at least one that backs up your claim. If the links have all been edited to remove inaccurate information, then they can't have been reliable canon to begin with.

I actually can't! I went back to check the links this morning. 404, page no longer exists, and the rest fanfic. I am greatly mistaken and apologize!

[KizuyaKatogami]

It was just listed as an example. There's dozens of links I could post, but like I said, I don't care about their height. Doesn't help any links you find now, have been edited within the past few days, articles removed like physiology etc, as they wait for males release to update it then. Am all for any size male viera. But some are really strict on their lore as it was, not after retcon.

Heck, I can't even search Male Viera anymore now, after Fanfest. At page 32, and still updated 6 days ago. Either way. Let them be whatever, lore doesn't matter if it existed at all before.

Edit:
Seems to have come from FFXII, when reach Eruyt Village, minor convo about the Viera, and the booklet that came with the game. If anyone still has that booklet, could clear things up for sure.

If the quote calling them small comes from ff12, then that means absolutely nothing. 12 and 14 are two completely different universes with completely different lore, they’ve established this multiples times especially with the Ivalice questline.

[Komarimono]

If the quote calling them small comes from ff12, then that means absolutely nothing. 12 and 14 are two completely different universes with completely different lore, they’ve established this multiples times especially with the Ivalice questline.

Um, I thought it was the opposite?
https://bleedingcool.com/games/video...rrent-stories/

Or am I reading that wrong? Literally connects to the Zodiac Brave story.

[Renik]

Um, I thought it was the opposite?
https://bleedingcool.com/games/video...rrent-stories/

Or am I reading that wrong? Literally connects to the Zodiac Brave story.

You could see the zodiac brave story in XIV as a very similar event that happened in 2 totally different universes, ffXII and tactics A and A2 happen in Ivalice which is a completely different world than Hydaelyn.
Even so, I don't think there's any information about how male viera look in any ivalice game, If anything ffXIV got the little existing lore on them and expanded it, you can find this lore in game by talking to the Wandering Dramaturge in the Prima Vista.

I actually can't! I went back to check the links this morning. 404, page no longer exists, and the rest fanfic. I am greatly mistaken and apologize!

About this, It's kinda brave for someone to admit a mistake in these forums, you have my full respect! And it's definitely not your fault, I don't know if there's someone purposely spreading false lore, or if somehow people started mixing fanfic with official lore, but there's a lot of people that believes in some strange lore that has nothing to do with the official lore in game.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Um, I thought it was the opposite?
https://bleedingcool.com/games/video...rrent-stories/

Or am I reading that wrong? Literally connects to the Zodiac Brave story.

A word of advice lorewise(this isn’t meant to be snarky). Never ever use any sort of blog or even wiki’s for lore. They’re either very wrong, biased, or both. Just flipped through that link and them saying “ff14 ivalice raid has garamsythe waterway and goug so they absolutely must be connected” hurt my brain.

[Komarimono]

You could see the zodiac brave story in XIV as a very similar event that happened in 2 totally different universes, ffXII and tactics A and A2 happen in Ivalice which is a completely different world than Hydaelyn.
Even so, I don't think there's any information about how male viera look in any ivalice game, If anything ffXIV got the little existing lore on them and expanded it, you can find this lore in game by talking to the Wandering Dramaturge in the Prima Vista.



About this, It's kinda brave for someone to admit a mistake in these forums, you have my full respect! And it's definitely not your fault, I don't know if there's someone purposely spreading false lore, or if somehow people started mixing fanfic with official lore, but there's a lot of people that believes in some strange lore that has nothing to do with the official lore in game.

Well, if you can't admit your own mistakes, can't really move forwards and improve. I've no problem admitting I done screwed the pooch there.

A word of advice lorewise(this isn’t meant to be snarky). Never ever use any sort of blog or even wiki’s for lore. They’re either very wrong, biased, or both. Just flipped through that link and them saying “ff14 ivalice raid has garamsythe waterway and goug so they absolutely must be connected” hurt my brain.

Very true, I need to find better sources for sure.

[Amnmaat]

Added male Viera to the male races chart. This would be my preference; female Roegadyn is there for reference, as far as the range their height slider has.


Also, I find it really interesting that Matsuno would have had a different take on Male Viera. I know he no longer works full time for Square enix but he would be the one I would first go to if I was them. Now I have to wonder, how would have Matsuno's male Viera looked like, specially in terms of height and even physique. My guess is that he would go for the more elf/rough/rugged look.

Something more like this where the male looks rough because of their lifestyle

[Vahlnir]

Also, I find it really interesting that Matsuno would have had a different take on Male Viera. I know he no longer works full time for Square enix but he would be the one I would first go to if I was them. Now I have to wonder, how would have Matsuno's male Viera looked like, specially in terms of height and even physique. My guess is that he would go for the more elf/rough/rugged look.

Something more like this where the male looks rough because of their lifestyle

I'm guessing they did go to him for some details. They seemed to value his input in the past in regards to viera and FF XIV. I don't think the art you posted above was bad by any means as far as a concept goes, but what they went with feels more fitting, given the way that female viera is designed. In my opinion they absolutely nailed it. I saw way more people asking for what we got, though I will admit small part of me expected them to be Au Ra-esque.

[Roda]

Yeah no that height range is almost as ridiculous as the au ra height discrepancy between m/f.
A full foot of height difference between the tallest male and tallest female? that is a MASSIVE no thank you from me, unless the females have their height ranges expanded too.
And once again adding yet another super tall male race (whose ears would cast shadows on the tallest roegadyn in your picture!!) pushes the selection of male racial choices to the gotta-be-tall options, where the shorter than hyur options are severely lacking.

And by your comments again, I am convinced you would be much happier pushing for improvements to Au Ra customizations than you would be by pushing for a race you don't think is big and rugged enough for you

[Senn]

but what they went with feels more fitting, given the way that female viera is designed. In my opinion they absolutely nailed it. I saw way more people asking for what we got

Agreeing with this. I love the design of the male viera we got. I never wanted them to be rough or rugged personally, but I would not mind having a face option like that for players that want it.