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    Meteorologically the seasons here go until certain conditions are met. Like summer here is X days over YY degree temperature. It can be meteorologically summer, but not summer according to the calendar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venandi View Post
    In Japan, yes, because it does not snow there until December, but not in America.
    Winter also starts on December 21st in the US as well. The US and Japan are near the same latitude and have the same seasons. If you look at any US calendar it says first day of winter on December 21st.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venandi View Post
    In Japan, yes, because it does not snow there until December, but not in America.
    December 21 is the official first day of Winter on this side of the globe
    and has been for a couple of thousand years.... Unless you're in Australia where there it's the first day of Summer.
    That's not an opinion, that's fact.
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    I'm late to the party here, but beyond the official start of Winter being Dec 21, I've always considered Thanksgiving to be at the end of Fall. It's actually weird to me that people in the U.S. would consider Thanksgiving as a Winter holiday.

    Winter isn't until Christmas decorations go up. Fight me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrogDog View Post
    I'm late to the party here, but beyond the official start of Winter being Dec 21, I've always considered Thanksgiving to be at the end of Fall. It's actually weird to me that people in the U.S. would consider Thanksgiving as a Winter holiday.

    Winter isn't until Christmas decorations go up. Fight me.
    She is the first and only person I know of that think Thanksgiving is a winter holiday in the US. Though, in some places Christmas decorations are up before Thanksgiving and in some places they never get taken down.
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    Never did I thought this thread would go to page 22 and be on the front page for like 3 days, lmao.
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    This thread is an excellent template for a Ace Attorney video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade-Wolf View Post
    This thread is an excellent template for a Ace Attorney video.
    haha yes or Dangaonronpa

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    Consider this: SQEnix said Fall 2021, but it didn't say Fall 2021 on Earth.

    SQEnix using lunar seasons, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Meteorologically the seasons here go until certain conditions are met. Like summer here is X days over YY degree temperature. It can be meteorologically summer, but not summer according to the calendar.
    It depends on where you are, one of the definitions for meteological seasons is that they're specific and unchanging quarters of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Winter also starts on December 21st in the US as well. The US and Japan are near the same latitude and have the same seasons. If you look at any US calendar it says first day of winter on December 21st.
    Yoshi-P and Koji Fox would seemingly disagree about when winter starts in japan, you can watch the keynote where the question of whether or not the release date is really fall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    December 21 is the official first day of Winter on this side of the globe
    and has been for a couple of thousand years.... Unless you're in Australia where there it's the first day of Summer.
    That's not an opinion, that's fact.
    You're going to need to provide a citation for that one lol. Even the wiki article is saying citation needed for the claim it dates back to even ancient rome.

    As an aussie our summer starts on december 1 cause we use the meteorological seasons, however, even if we used your definition which links to the solstices, it looks like it's on the 22nd the year before each leap year.

    Also, in medieval europe they apparently used the solar recoking which places the equinoxes and solstices roughly in the center of their seasons. This would be why an alternate name for the summer solstice is midsummer. Halloween/Samhain is also the end of the harvest season/fall/autumn in that model.


    Seasons are human labels for different times of the year, their recoking is based on the changes observed in nature in a certain area which is often completely irrelevant to other. We all likely have differing experiences because we just live in different places where because our seasons are all actually different.
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