Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Nestama]

The art is nice, I dig that style.
But no to that face for FemHroth

It's the chin that is making me go "eeeh." Like she has the snout (sorta), but then the face keeps going and then suddenly human chin. Remove that and the face is actually alright.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I don't think they will get any human looking face

You Promise?

It's the chin that is making me go "eeeh." Like she has the snout (sorta), but then the face keeps going and then suddenly human chin. Remove that and the face is actually alright.

Im just a Purest and demand full on Animal. Either go one way, or the other way.
The middleground to me is lazy reeks fear of Commitment.
Its really a good looking art, just please no smooshed in human face. Please!

[Allegor]

I don't think they will get any human looking face
for male viera they took inspiration from Fan art for Hrothgals I'm sure they will do the same

And two recurring images that pop around every single time the topic is mentioned are that genderbent Kimahri and that Bless waifu, who we already said many times look "too human" so one really can't say for certain there won't be a Cats face in there. That mural in Bozja, as unreliable as it may be, points in that exact direction too.

[AnAverageAspie]

And two recurring images that pop around every single time the topic is mentioned are that genderbent Kimahri and that Bless waifu, who we already said many times look "too human" so one really can't say for certain there won't be a Cats face in there. That mural in Bozja, as unreliable as it may be, points in that exact direction too.

Yes but what is the general traffic and audience retention from the original sources? Searching off keywords to find something to delve into a conversation, and liking something to the point of playing a video game for what algorithmic ranks made them stumble across are not mutually exclusive. However, both happening at once is incredibly rare and unreliable to generate a clear vision of demand. There are techniques to manipulate the ranking system in web browser searches. OUR ACTIONS ON THESE FORUMS ARE INFLUENCING IT! Yes the aforementioned pictures are on top rank but how frequent are people actually typing for Female Hrothgar? Not much until probably recently. Some may just copy and paste these to pass along as opinion pieces for exactly what this forum has been doing. But a simple visit to the original sites paints a clearer picture. That genderbent Khimari and fem ronso art are not even close to 2k likes and have dead conversations in their respective sites. Meanwhile, newer arts just after fanfest are accelerating in likes, shares and traction faster than what over a year of those old fanarts gained in the wild. They are varied for sure but if the Devs are still busy (probably not even started), then these new arts are going to add some new introspection and inspiration for the dev team's design for the females anyway.

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A stylistic choice of a flater face from official illustration didn't make it for Male Hrothgar, seeing the mural and this side by side and the exagerrated hip proportion(of mural) seems like they just dumped and a previous WIP that was intended for a face/body type for the lost face 4 and could still be in the works.

[Frooty]

Never noticed that before and looking at it i don't really see any fur on the shoulders either, wonder if they wanted to add some options that would give you the ability to make an almost "human" hrothgar, that actually woulda been worth the hats lmao

[reivaxe]

A stylistic choice of a flater face from official illustration didn't make it for Male Hrothgar, seeing the mural and this side by side and the exagerrated hip proportion(of mural) seems like they just dumped and a previous WIP that was intended for a face/body type for the lost face 4 and could still be in the works.

Don't mean to pop your bubble about "likes" but nether this thread nor the Viera male one pasted 2k likes, yet they clearly took notice of it (and with everything we have to go on I very much doubt they haven't started work on Hrothgals yet). Since 2019 that gender swapped art and Bless cats have been the main things people point at.

As for this bit, they had already settled on the 4 faces before the artist made the reveal picture for fan fest. That's not a concept that didn't make it through, it was art made after they nailed down the design. The only thing he says about it is that everything with making Hrothgar was so hard that "by the time I got to this my mind was ... just blank" which I take is his way of recognizing that none of those heads look like that in game and that it's missing things.

Not sure what "exaggerated hips" is referring to but the latest mural art just looks exactly like the custom Femroe Queen body.

Never noticed that before and looking at it i don't really see any fur on the shoulders either

I actually wonder when they decided to give them fur.
They don't have it in this concept art which has the patterns, and thats the only concept art they've shown for the body.

[Nestama]

I actually wonder when they decided to give them fur.
They don't have it in this concept art which has the patterns, and thats the only concept art they've shown for the body.

Probably the same reason they gave Au Ra scales. Also I really like the fur (they're the furry race, obvs), especially as it makes them the only race in this game that can have chest hair >:I

[Iplewhelmed]

Aside from that one Bless waifu posted earlier, I unironically think adult Nala from the original Lion King would be a pretty good standard for our hrothgals. She already has plenty of great expressions to reference/draw inspiration from for emotes while her decidedly animal-shaped head retains a degree of (what we consider conventional) femininity that doesn't veer too far into the humanoid territory in terms of facial structure.

[AnAverageAspie]

Don't mean to pop your bubble about "likes" but nether this thread nor the Viera male one pasted 2k likes, yet they clearly took notice of it.

As for this bit, they had already settled on the 4 faces before the artist made the reveal picture for fan fest. That's not a concept that didn't make it through, it was art made after they nailed down the design.

I actually wonder when they decided to give them fur.
They don't have it in this concept art which has the patterns, and thats the only concept art they've shown for the body.

You didn't pop anything. Let me walk you through it, these threads were made to bring attention to the want for MV and FH in general. The viewers, likes and constant posts from hopefully active players are a testament to that. The pictures posted in these threads to expand discussions all have their own sources on art threads or social media with their own kind of popularity to them be it shares, likes, etc. The most "popular" ones to share are from twitter and forum (from a crop of a PR image for Bless). Yet likes and attention for them are either low or too vague to judge if people actually like or want to play them.

In less than a week an art like this achieved faster than 1.2k likes of female ronso or genderbent Khimari. You can say its unfair given its an artist with a larger than average base but as a marketer that means a bigger pool to see how many who follow them who actually like the art and any who might be new that could be interested in playing the game for such a concept or just like seeing them around in the world. And this isn't even in relation to arts outside of those or before fanfest.

And this one doubled the previous picture. I'd see it as people either liking them or new or current players wanting the choice like with Hyur to have a bigger or smaller build with unique faces to accompany them like with the clan system for said Hyur.

Just some props to Nessie's cute art. Gotta support the smaller artists, ya know.

They settled but the artist created the most stylistically different interpretation of face 4 that looks more like what a male Ronso would look like if following the females face structure. You'd think it was a concept design rather than something accurate to form like with the other drawn illustrations of the races. The face and Mural 2 of female hrothgar look very cohesive in comparison. The fact it was done after adds more weight to how much of a chaotic rush it was for them to not even focus on an identity for them that was already put into the game. The devs/Yoshida wanted to add more protruding fur with physics to such which crashed their test clients and the game after adding 3 Hrothgar into it. So make back art to account for them not going forward with it or the Occam's razor being its easier to draw the anatomy and muscle definition to then interpret into mesh.

And by just looking at mural 1 to 2 seeing an artistic and anatomical difference to faces and body proportions while still exaggerated(the artform in general is an exaggerated technique) then there is and has been time to evolve the concept and design with retooling.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Yes, give it to me, I need it.
Stop Teasing me!