Please do not ruin summoner! I heard that summons are being removed

[MoltresRider]

I am going to wait to see what happens and what, "Summoner is at the breaking point.." means or if it is just a miss-translation, if it relates to the crunch they are doing to the damage on all jobs but I am nervous!

People who complain summoner is broken, are not those who played the ENTIRE game as summoner. You just got to learn to use it properly

Personally, as long as Egis themselves remain (not necessarily as pets), then I'll be satisfied.
Especially if Egi glamours are still in the cards.

I am the other way around. I would rather have the big summons. Bahamut and Phoenix look so cool. I would gladly trade in my Egis for more DPS from Bahamut and Phoenix and also summoner spells

[Dyvid]

I am the other way around. I would rather have the big summons. Bahamut and Phoenix look so cool. I would gladly trade in my Egis for more DPS from Bahamut and Phoenix and also summoner spells

What if they finally overhaul Egi to be bigger (Hume Highlander) and more impressive?

[juicybug]

That'd be dope af. Like Ifrit as an actual Hellhound, Garuda as a winged hawk-woman much like her smaller adds, and - well forget titan, or make titan a cone based DPS summon and looking like a proper golem because at this rate there is never use of one during any high level combat, which makes it obsolete.

[Raikai]

People who complain summoner is broken, are not those who played the ENTIRE game as summoner. You just got to learn to use it properly

Maybe they don't play it because they feel it's "broken" to begin with?

But broken is not the right word... I'd say clunky is the best way to describe. But then, even the notion of "clunkiness" can vary from person to person.

I mained SMN pre ShB, and was really excited to see the Demi-Phoenix added in the job action reveal... But in practice, the job's rotations, actions feel disconnected, disorganized... It's even a struggle to set the keybinds in a way that it makes sense with muscle memory. And then there's the whole situation about ghosting and the weird demi-Enkindle movement thing, those just add up to the convoluted playstyle.

The idea of 2 trance cycles with downtime between them actually sounds great in theory... And maybe it would be amazing for a job created from the ground, but they inserted that in a structure that was already too busy to begin with.

But again, that's my personal impression. Despite what I think about Egis, I don't know if they are going to be removed or not, but given the hints on Mr. Happy' interview, it's heavily hinted that they won't work or be presented as they are now if they stay. The fact that they had to stop developing a cosmetic system in lieau of an alleged "breaking point" possibly means that they don't want to make something for a system that is bound to change.

[Grimoire-M]

Leveled SMN to cap in ARR (as I wanted to learn it and SCH, but I had a worse computer so I didn't feel comfortable using it as a main), eagerly started to main it in HW once I figured out how to abuse DWT. Loved how it played in that expansion, but wound up hating it vehemently and playing it regardless in Stormblood (swapped to bard a lot and hated that for Stormblood Bard-specific reasons. My static went through a lot of weird swaps but we cleared everything with Triple Caster + SAM). Kept it as a main because liked where it landed at Shadowbringers launch. Feel it doesn't take much to fix from where it is now.

Yoshi-P saying that "Summoner's mechanics are reaching a breaking point" implies to me that they're going to do something between a button trim/merge down and a full rework in Endwalker. They also confirmed they've postponed Egi Glamour to fix pets, and that the Avatar System they used for Reaper will NOT be used for Summoner at all. That does NOT mean they are removing pets. It does mean they're focusing on them specifically.

I've got a lot of recent posts going over what's wrong but suffice it to say, current summoner works. The changes it needs now when compared to how god awful it's been in the past are not even in the same league. We all want Egi to improve, so if they're finally focusing their attention there then we're likely to see the glow up they deserve soon.

Just don't bring back SB Bahamut and we're golden.